why doesnt anyone take a chance anymore?

I agree

ShootingArts said:
I see this all the time, "I make lots of bad games but I outrun the nuts." BS! If you are outrunning the "nuts" most of the time, you are the one underestimating your game and wanting a lock. By definition a totally fair game would mean that each person would win fifty percent of the time over the long run.

When people have to work hard to win a match up, they claim they outran the nuts. An expression I am tired of, simply because it ain't true. Nobody outruns the nuts more than once in a blue moon, a genuine fluke. You have to work your butt off to win a match up, good deal! That is what is supposed to happen if you matched up fairly.

Hu
What's the difference between a pool player and a banker robber?

The bank robber is more honest ....... he shows you the gun.

Most pool player don't have two quarters to rub together because of gambling. Everyone goes broke eventually. Even the good ones. IMHO
I enjoy playing pool even for fun. It has taken me a few years to figure that out.

What do you call a pool player without girlfriend??

HOMELESS!!!
 
Road Warrior said:
How did that turn out by the way, did he make it or did grady take it?

Grady got ahead 4-0 in a race to 5, the kid came back to make it 4-4, Grady won the final game to win the money. I heard they adjusted the spot and the kid won but I didn't see it, I only saw the 20-10 set.
 
I will play for whatever I have on me .......and don't mind playin someone who plays up to a ball or two better than me , even ................
 
You nits need are the first ones to watch when there is action in the pool room. That is what everyone wants to see. The action. How do you expect to be a better player if you never practice your pressure game. I know of a great player that never misses when playing by himself, but gets the high speed wobbles when he is playing a strong player under pressure situations like a big tourney. The more you practice your pressure game, the better you will perform under it. All you non-action types will never know what I mean until you are feeling that pressure.
 
well said action... and whoever said im a lock artist obviously doesnt know me. ive played everyone even in my life at one point or another. ive lost a ton of money and won a ton of money. its people like that that are ruining pool. i dont gamble to pay my bills, i gamble because it is fun. if someone who never gets up unless he has the nuts has to pay their bills with their money, more power to them i guess. but go somewhere else.
 
joshmfhamlin1 said:
I hate going to the pool room now because there are not enough people who will just get up and play at any given moment. its like pulling teeth to try to get a game. so many spots and nitty people are killing the action of pool. i play poker now because i dont have to match up with anyone or spot anyone. i will play anyone in the world at pool as long as the game is somewhat fair. if i win, i win, if i lose, **** it. i just wish people would get up and gamble sometimes. i have been in a lot of 'bad games' in my life that i have outrun the nuts. it seems like there are not a lot of people who have the heart to get up and play anymore. im just talking about the average players, not the world beaters. but i will play them too if i can make a game.

The question arising from this tale:

Are you a pool player or a gambling addict?:D
 
Tourney Play

actioncentral said:
You nits need are the first ones to watch when there is action in the pool room. That is what everyone wants to see. The action. How do you expect to be a better player if you never practice your pressure game. I know of a great player that never misses when playing by himself, but gets the high speed wobbles when he is playing a strong player under pressure situations like a big tourney. The more you practice your pressure game, the better you will perform under it. All you non-action types will never know what I mean until you are feeling that pressure.

Your concept is correct. I don't mind tourney play, it is a good test of ability and has some pressure built in. Gambling for hours on end is just not my game. I also don't sit around watching someone else play in the pool room. I have never considered myself a as you say nit. Actually I'm not sure what that means. JMO :confused:
 
Both..........

Scaramouche said:
The question arising from this tale:

Are you a pool player or a gambling addict?:D

I guess it's possible to be both or combination of. I have never thought of myself as a gambler.
 
Well then you gotta jump in the box and play and match up. Once you are there, you can see where your heart is at. Maybe it will pump KOOL-AID, Or maybe you may find that you are a cold blooded world beater. But if you guys want to improve your game, You gotta jump in and match up with the better players.
 
Hey man, I got a family and a job, but my motto is work hard and play hard. All you non-action types are just like a fad. Playing pool for fun gets boring after awhile, that is why they make OPPONENTS The real players who match up and gamble will be playing for years, be talked about, some even may become legends. Too much Funsie Pool will make your game weak. You gotta match up and challenge somebody or accept a challenge sometime.

Even if you are playing a good player for fun, do you think that even if you beat them, you got to play them at their top game? Play a shortstop even and beat him for funsies, SO WHAT?, play a shortstop getting the wild 8 for $100 a set and you may get drilled. When you beat him then that is the when you can start to guage to see how good you can play and compete with the best. It is a great feeling to match up fairly and then take dwon a strong player. Nothing like it. Try it sometime.
 
joshmfhamlin1 said:
I hate going to the pool room now because there are not enough people who will just get up and play at any given moment. its like pulling teeth to try to get a game. so many spots and nitty people are killing the action of pool. i play poker now because i dont have to match up with anyone or spot anyone. i will play anyone in the world at pool as long as the game is somewhat fair. if i win, i win, if i lose, **** it. i just wish people would get up and gamble sometimes. i have been in a lot of 'bad games' in my life that i have outrun the nuts. it seems like there are not a lot of people who have the heart to get up and play anymore. im just talking about the average players, not the world beaters. but i will play them too if i can make a game.
Your complaint has been uttered by every pool player since
Shakespeare. It ain't easy out there!
 
JohnPT said:
When simply saying I don't play for money is not enough, telling them I don't carry cash and only carry a credit card usually ends the conversation.
I accept all major credit cards or PayPal !
 
Spots

I can understand both sides of the argument.I don't waant to get set up with a whirl beater for big dollars.I myself am a b+ player ,I would rather play someone lesser for me for the hell of it than gamble with him with a huge spot.I have nothing to gain,if I win I'm supposed to and if I loose I loose.If I try to adjust the spot then they quit.I would rather play a whirl beater with a small spot and cheaper sets for my learning.I hate nothing more than getting woofed at and then when I say lets play they ask for a ludicrous spot.Louie when we play I will gamble with you if you want we can play small sets 25 race to 5 ,the only spot I want is the 8 in ten ball and we have to play on the diamond triple shim table.If I win some how we can adjust :eek: I want a chance to win but I want to have to get out also.
 
Sjd ---

SJDinPHX said:
I accept all major credit cards or PayPal !

SJD

I have all of the above. The limits on them would just about pay for the trip out East:p . I'll just consider it a donation to your retirement fund.

Regards

Keith
 
actioncentral said:
Well then you gotta jump in the box and play and match up. Once you are there, you can see where your heart is at. Maybe it will pump KOOL-AID, Or maybe you may find that you are a cold blooded world beater. But if you guys want to improve your game, You gotta jump in and match up with the better players.

That honestly sounds like someone who can't perform unless they absolutely NEED to. Why not play Russian roulette. That's pressure, where's your heart? If a better player can't beat me without money on the line, I say that says as much about him as it does me. I certainly know what nerves are, and I'm not just talking about being hill - hill in some pool match. And I really don't think MONEY is something that works on my nerves like other things do. A 10 foot putt to make it into a playoff in a golf tourney is gonna shake me a bunch more than missing a 10 footer that takes a $1K outta my own pocket. Just the way I am. I don't need action on everything to hold my interest, or make me wanna win is all I'm saying.
 
SJDinPHX said:
Your complaint has been uttered by every pool player since
Shakespeare. It ain't easy out there!


How did you and William match up, SJD ?;)
 
jgpool said:
I always have and still do enjoy beating someone for nothing. No bet, just the game and the thrill of the competition. I really like to beat the opponent to the point of excuse time. When they start with the excuses. Then I know I got their number. Pure pool, no money, no gamble. Skill against skill. Pool has always been the end for me, not the money. JMO

The belt just holds up your pants!
 
William who ? If you mean "Slick Willy" Shakespear I used to give
him the 8 and the break when we were kids.
( Responding to punter.)
 
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I?ll probably offend somebody with this post, but it won?t be the first time, I guess. When I started playing pool seriously, in the early/mid ?70s, the very first time I played anyone in the poolroom, I played a guy quarter/half 9 ball for about an hour and broke even. My opponent probably played a bit better than I did at the time, but I was able to hold my own because I already had some knowledge of the game. Also, the luck factor came into play quite a bit;) Mostly, I tried to play Straight pool for split-time because I didn?t play all that well and didn?t have a whole lot of money. As my game progressed, I began to play for table time. Then I started to play for small stakes, 50 points of Straight pool for two dollars and the table time. 9 ball, a buck a game or short races for two or three dollars. And, low and behold, I played for money and I started playing better! I saw shots I didn?t see before. I began to concentrate because I didn?t want to lose. I really didn?t pay much attention to it at the time but I couldn?t understand why, when I played for table time and no money, I didn?t play as well. People beat me for table time, but put up two bucks and I murdered them. Playing for money got me playing the better players because they were the ones who played for money. This got me playing better. Those who didn?t play for money stayed pretty much where they were, skill wise.
In all the years I?ve played, I?ve never become the player I?d like to be. But I?m as good as I am because in those early years I played for money as a means to an end. It made me concentrate, gave me a reason not to miss. Not playing for money never did that. I?ve never seen my A game when I wasn?t playing for money or playing in a tournament, and I haven?t played for money in quite a while now. My game has suffered for it, to some extent. On the other hand, I?ve learned quite a bit while on hiatus, so to speak. I never became a poolroom bum; I always had a job and a family. I never became a degenerate gambler. I know, now, that it?s hard for someone who didn?t learn to play that way to understand, but it?s how some of us learned to play, damn it! I know that some people don?t have to play for money to enjoy the game, but I wonder how much better some of those people might play if they did. I?ve personally known very, very few good players who never played for money. Some people have the philosophy: ?If you don?t risk anything, you?ll never bring your ?A? game.? I tend to agree and so do many others. If I have nothing to lose but bragging rights, it doesn?t mean anything to me. I play people occasionally for nothing now, because they won?t play for anything, but I don?t particularly care for it.
Ah, well????.
PS, anybody know why all these question marks keep showing up?? Didn't type it that way.
 
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