Why Is There Such Animosity On The Forum?

Nothing happened.. the thread was locked.

But to answer the OP...

Passion, thin skinnedness, and people pushing liberal agendas. :)

JV

I only read 22 pages from the other thread. What happened to supergreenman and classiccues ? One other guy was also throttling Armstrong pretty hard.

By the way, Armstrong I had never seen you post before that thread. I may not agree with everything you stated, but I admired your tenacity and support of your position.

I would sit and drink with you if we ever meet.

Jim Talmon

P.S. I enjoyed the North American pissing contest that erupted during the thread.
 
Nothing happened.. the thread was locked.

But to answer the OP...

Passion, thin skinnedness, and people pushing liberal agendas. :)

JV

And conservative rednecks that think more guns are the answer :)

I'd say the thin skinned guys were the ones that resorted to namecalling. I think I kept it between the lines. A bunch of you got pissy like 15 year old girls....

Whatever ;)
 
Also Matt, you seem to think you are in charge quite often, which just gets some folks wanting your threads to derail.

It's a forum, where politics are allowed, made up of all parts of society. Arguments will happen.

People can say the same "hide behind a keyboard" crap over and over but the bottom line is, people are less inclined to be civil to arrogant, obnoxious idiots. And Matt often comes across as just that. In fact, Matt has ALWAYS come across as that when I think about it.

B <--------- would say that to his face
 
There isn't animosity on the forum. There are a few curmudgeons that post in threads, and make them go sideways.

Some people are here to fulfill their lifelong quest for conflict. You can tell who the people are that want to discuss issues. Then, there are those who engage in namecalling, questioning someone's intelligence or ability to tie their shoes if they disagree with their stance or belief.

People have different opinions. Some people like to have a discussion about things. Others choose to call anyone that doesn't agree with them an "idiot". Usually, it's the second group that cause threads to go sideways.

Pretty funny stuff, you must have been looking in the mirror when you wrote this
 
....But to answer the OP...

Passion, thin skinnedness, and people pushing liberal agendas. :)

JV

Sometimes you can only sit back so long before something HAS to be said. I had my moments when the "to CNC" or "not to CNC" ignorance hit its height a few years back. You know how it is Joe....The only problem is so many just don't want to listen. They think they know everything already... Among other topics, it speaks volumes about those pushing their own "cue agendas" based off of opinions derived from ignorance.. I know I shouldn't bother me but with how popular social media has become, the truth can be so easily "remanufactured" so those who actually search for it, want it, can't guarantee what they'll find is actually it...
 
Let me start with an apology for stirring up a ruckus with my past thread......no reason whatsoever to even bring up the topic other than to post " I had no idea it would lead to such noise."

Reflect on this....the thread went from zero to 100 way too fast........4 days and 16 pages and a closed thread........and the intended subject/topic was never answered or adequately addressed either......somewhere things got out of control.....it became personal or so it appeared to me from my perusal of the posts......and Mr. Wilson even posted a warning about not letting things get out of hand.......remain civil.


My question is this and please answer only if you care about the swamp the Forum seems to be becoming.....and the Mods can't impose behavioral control other than thru banning people.....why can't there just be simple disagreement.......two different viewpoints. albeit opposing versions, coexisting on the same Forum without imposing a battle of wills or imperial power to prove that the other person is wrong.......and it's much more than that nowadays too........make the other guy look stupid and publicly rebuke & mock the other guy..,,,,,you know.what I mean.....hit 'em hard.


Look, I readily admit I started the last ruckus but I did not create the atmosphere which permeated the thread so early on.......and I threw a couple of jabs too but never a best punch type post which would have been pretty meaningless because at a certain point, the thread had pretty much turned into a free for all bar fight. My question is simply why? Maybe if we can figure out why......or identify the catalyst(s) that turned things sour, we can guard against it happening in the future which kind of seems to be a common event on the Forum. Things seem to go south on certain topics or with certain Azers and the overall combination seems to be absolute poison.

Its the internet man. Look at Youtube comments for instance. Add on top of that a game played by older people, who hang out in smokey alcohol serving bars, gamble and you start getting a picture. At least thats my theory. I haven't compared it to a cleaner-cut game forum like golf.
 
Shawn,
The difference whether you want to admit it or not, is that the conservative says, if you don't like guns, don't buy them. The liberal says, I don't like guns so YOU can't buy them. This is where the problem is, same with ivory.

JV

And conservative rednecks that think more guns are the answer :)

I'd say the thin skinned guys were the ones that resorted to namecalling. I think I kept it between the lines. A bunch of you got pissy like 15 year old girls....

Whatever ;)
 
Shawn,
The difference whether you want to admit it or not, is that the conservative says, if you don't like guns, don't buy them. The liberal says, I don't like guns so YOU can't buy them. This is where the problem is, same with ivory.

JV

Sadly, this post misstates the liberal position.

Ownership is not the issue. mis-use and abuse is and conservatives know it!!!

Conservatives would arm 5 year olds and have them shooting it out on the play ground! Liberals would have them in the office getting therapy and counseling. Big difference!

Liberals could careless if the ivory from animals that died naturally in the wild was harvested and utilized. That is a Fact! They care that the animals are being hunted to extinction. Nothing to do with "Ownership" that has never been the issue and conservatives are so quick to get upset when they can not look deep enough to see the liberals are not trying to stomp on their "rights" in anyway. Just trying to provide solutions that are a mutual win-win for everyone.

Conservatives are of the opinion that they do not care about the "opinions of others" and its "their way or the highway" no budging and no concern for others!

KD
 
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You may say that but the liberal actions speak otherwise.

BTW those 5 year olds would only need to be shooting it out with the bad guys, you know the guys that got the guns illegally, you know the people who vote liberal.

JV

Sadly, this post misstates the liberal position.

Ownership is not the issue. mis-use and abuse is and conservatives know it!!!

Conservatives would arm 5 year olds and have them shooting it out on the play ground! Liberals would have them in the office getting therapy and counseling. Big difference!


KD
 
You may say that but the liberal actions speak otherwise.

BTW those 5 year olds would only need to be shooting it out with the bad guys, you know the guys that got the guns illegally, you know the people who vote liberal.

JV

really no fights over the last lollipop???

No fights over being first in line???

No fights over the jungle gym???

No fights over the soccer ball on the play ground???

You are way off! When was the last time you've been around kids? Let alone the kid shots the teacher cause she told him to sit down and be quite during story time!

God conservatives just do not get it!

KD
 
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You may say that but the liberal actions speak otherwise.

BTW those 5 year olds would only need to be shooting it out with the bad guys, you know the guys that got the guns illegally, you know the people who vote liberal.

JV

Keep drinking the Kool-Aid.
 
Shawn,
The difference whether you want to admit it or not, is that the conservative says, if you don't like guns, don't buy them. The liberal says, I don't like guns so YOU can't buy them. This is where the problem is, same with ivory.
JV

Guns are not the problem. Shawn Armstrongs are.
But, I do like the way he got all up into Barton's business. :)
 
Guns are not the problem. Shawn Armstrongs are.
But, I do like the way he got all up into Barton's business. :)

Thanks, Tramp. For the record, I have no issues with guns. I firmly believe they are a necessary item in today's world. I like Chris Rock's theory on gun control. Just make bullets $10,000 each. There would be no "caught in the crossfire", or "drivebys". And if a guy was filled with lead, you know he did something wrong.

Guns are legal in many other countries besides the US, and they still have nowhere near the same homicide rates. It's all about education. I'm done talking about ivory and guns. You have your beliefs. I have mine. But I have done nothing to garner the threats I have received....people telling me they'd like to shoot me with their ivory handled gun, or stab me in the face with an ivory tusk. I don't hide behind a screen name. How about some of you act like adults, please?
 
Thanks, Tramp. For the record, I have no issues with guns. I firmly believe they are a necessary item in today's world. I like Chris Rock's theory on gun control. Just make bullets $10,000 each. There would be no "caught in the crossfire", or "drivebys". And if a guy was filled with lead, you know he did something wrong.

Guns are legal in many other countries besides the US, and they still have nowhere near the same homicide rates. It's all about education. I'm done talking about ivory and guns. You have your beliefs. I have mine. But I have done nothing to garner the threats I have received....people telling me they'd like to shoot me with their ivory handled gun, or stab me in the face with an ivory tusk. I don't hide behind a screen name. How about some of you act like adults, please?

Maybe if you stopped carpet bombing threads with your greatly superior intellect you wouldn't get those (imagined?) types of reactions.
 
No, you're way off. I don't think any conservative has ever said a 5 year old should be packing. Again, you made up a story, I just elaborated.

BTW Conservatives and Liberals both operate in mid-fairy tale land. Its why I choose neither.

JV

really no fights over the last lollipop???

No fights over being first in line???

No fights over the jungle gym???

No fights over the soccer ball on the play ground???

You are way off! When was the last time you've been around kids? Let alone the kid shots the teacher cause she told him to sit down and be quite during story time!

God conservatives just do not get it!

KD
 
No, you're way off. I don't think any conservative has ever said a 5 year old should be packing. Again, you made up a story, I just elaborated.

BTW Conservatives and Liberals both operate in mid-fairy tale land. Its why I choose neither.

JV
Shawn,
The difference whether you want to admit it or not, is that the conservative says, if you don't like guns, don't buy them. The liberal says, I don't like guns so YOU can't buy them. This is where the problem is, same with ivory.

JV

Wow, you are being 2 faced pretty bad here! Quoting you above in red! Liberals are against kids owning guns and for gun restrictions. Then you say conservatives are for gun ownership and how dare liberals try and restrict ownership but when the 5 year old example is given as an example conservatives are flip flopping? Which is it? can't have it both ways! You illustrate my point about conservatives with out me having to "make up stories" sadly this verbal judo is just not going good for you.

KD

KD
 
.....at least him and I agree on something....

JV


Whoa, hold the phone and stop the presses. Since when did we disagree on something? I like girls, don't you? Adult beverages? Walks on the beach? Little furry puppies? Low cost car insurance? What? :)
 
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