Why no great Filipino women pool players???

Maniac

Maniac

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Or....am I missing/forgetting someone? With the huge amount of great men pool players coming from the Philippine Islands, it just baffles me that there aren't some great women players coming from that country.

Plenty of great women players from America, Europe, and the northern parts of Asia, but not the PI's.

Wonder why???

Maniac
 
Maniac said:
Or....am I missing/forgetting someone? With the huge amount of great men pool players coming from the Philippine Islands, it just baffles me that there aren't some great women players coming from that country.

Plenty of great women players from America, Europe, and the northern parts of Asia, but not the PI's.

Wonder why???

Maniac
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Rubelin Amit playes pretty sporty. She finished 5th in the China Open this year and won the Women's World 10 Ball in 2009: http://en.wikipilipinas.org/index.php?title=Rubilen_Amit
 
Noticed former World 10-ball champion Rubilen Amit was already mentioned.

Another successful female player from the Philippines was Iris Ranola.
 
Maniac said:
Or....am I missing/forgetting someone? With the huge amount of great men pool players coming from the Philippine Islands, it just baffles me that there aren't some great women players coming from that country.

Plenty of great women players from America, Europe, and the northern parts of Asia, but not the PI's.

Wonder why???

Maniac
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Who is going to stay home for kids, all men are playing pool or on the road
 
Wasn't the wife of Alex (Choy I Think) from the PI? She was good and getting better every year before she hooked up with Alex and started having children. Johnnyt
 
Rubilen and Iris are great players. They can hang with anyone. Rubilen teamed with Efren to beat Johnny and Jeanette in the mixed doubles worlds last year or the year before. She was very solid and a few times managed to come with some great shots after Efren left her tough.
 
Johnnyt said:
Wasn't the wife of Alex (Choy I Think) from the PI? She was good and getting better every year before she hooked up with Alex and started having children. Johnnyt
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Phoebe Choy was a good player, but not nearly good enough to make any noise on the international women's pool scene. I don't think she ever posted a top five finish on the WPBA tour when she played it.
 
Yeah, with respect, I believe that you're missing a lot. Of course, we all know now that Rubilen just scored her second World Championship, and Iris Ranola went deep into the tournament herself after winning a qualifier spot. This despite the fact that she was put into the same grouping as Rubilen this year and they had to play one another early. Iris is also a double gold medalist in the South East Asia Games and didn't do too darn shabby at all the year she came to the USA and played on the once dominant WPBA Tour. I also seem to remember her being interviewed on ESPN, and it wasn't for losing matches. In short, Iris is an amazing player and can beat anyone in the world on a good day. Besides those two, there are also the up and coming teenagers Cheska Centeno and Gillian Go who also played in the World 10 Ball Tournament. These girls can play very good speed.

Although this topic has come up before on AZ, people in the USA still don't understand that there is an entire world of pool and billiards in Asia that we are not exposed to here. People actually fill up the arena to watch them play over there and carry the matches live on TV. FYI, Rubilen and Iris once wanted to come to the USA and play when the WPBA was at full strength and popular, but before they could do that, they had to get government approval for the Visas and their sponsor had to provide the funds and approve their schedule (all tough to do for lady athletes in the PI). But nowadays, they really have no reason to travel here to the USA. Asia is where the action is for the ladies now.

All that said, I have watched Rubilen play many times and consider Iris a personal friend. They are both first class ladies in every regard and humble champions true the standards of their male counterparts. Very few women in the world can play anywhere near their level (for that matter, not that many men can either). So please, just order Filipino or Asia television my friend. You will soon see that the Filipino women are out there, and they are a strong force to be reckoned with. It is just tough to make a living in the Philippines, and many of them than can play well, cannot devote the necessary time to train without financial sponsors to help them.
 
West Point 1987 said:
Maybe a unique cultural thing?
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It must be, getting back to the OP's question about the dearth of top level pro Pinays vs top level pro Pinoys?

Sure there are a couple of ladies that people have heard of, but that's it. And I've lived here for almost two years.

I think it is cultural. I don't live in Angeles City but it's not too long of a drive and I go once a week for league. To make a long story short, there are plenty Ladies playing with the Expats and Pinoys there and while some make shots really well, the average Pinay doesn't think about the game the same way the average Pinoy does. Like playing safeties. I can count on one hand how average pool playing Pinay play a safety, but must all the average Pinoys do?

When not playing league, Pinay's playing amongst themselves has this "game" where the loser of a game has to crawl under the table from one side to the other as a "walk of shame", I guess that's how you would describe it? Pinoy's don't play that game, unless they are gay.

It's just a different mindset between the sexes for the average player here. When most of the men have a strategic mindset towards the game early in their pool development vs the women where only a percentage transitions to a strategic way of thinking later in their development.....it's just math. It's like the old adage about why big men in the NBA can't shoot free throws. Because they didn't have to develop that skill along the way. That's my theory anyway.

My league teammates and I were discussing this last week. More like our theory.

Karl
 
Krypto said:
Yeah, with respect, I believe that you're missing a lot. Of course, we all know now that Rubilen just scored her second World Championship, and Iris Ranola went deep into the tournament herself after winning a qualifier spot. This despite the fact that she was put into the same grouping as Rubilen this year and they had to play one another early. Iris is also a double gold medalist in the South East Asia Games and didn't do too darn shabby at all the year she came to the USA and played on the once dominant WPBA Tour. I also seem to remember her being interviewed on ESPN, and it wasn't for losing matches. In short, Iris is an amazing player and can beat anyone in the world on a good day. Besides those two, there are also the up and coming teenagers Cheska Centeno and Gillian Go who also played in the World 10 Ball Tournament. These girls can play very good speed.

Although this topic has come up before on AZ, people in the USA still don't understand that there is an entire world of pool and billiards in Asia that we are not exposed to here. People actually fill up the arena to watch them play over there and carry the matches live on TV. FYI, Rubilen and Iris once wanted to come to the USA and play when the WPBA was at full strength and popular, but before they could do that, they had to get government approval for the Visas and their sponsor had to provide the funds and approve their schedule (all tough to do for lady athletes in the PI). But nowadays, they really have no reason to travel here to the USA. Asia is where the action is for the ladies now.

All that said, I have watched Rubilen play many times and consider Iris a personal friend. They are both first class ladies in every regard and humble champions true the standards of their male counterparts. Very few women in the world can play anywhere near their level (for that matter, not that many men can either). So please, just order Filipino or Asia television my friend. You will soon see that the Filipino women are out there, and they are a strong force to be reckoned with. It is just tough to make a living in the Philippines, and many of them than can play well, cannot devote the necessary time to train without financial sponsors to help them.
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the Filipino young lady just took down the World 10 Ball Championship

all above well said and very much deserving of world recognition
 
Thanks for the info

Krypto said:
Yeah, with respect, I believe that you're missing a lot. Of course, we all know now that Rubilen just scored her second World Championship, and Iris Ranola went deep into the tournament herself after winning a qualifier spot. This despite the fact that she was put into the same grouping as Rubilen this year and they had to play one another early. Iris is also a double gold medalist in the South East Asia Games and didn't do too darn shabby at all the year she came to the USA and played on the once dominant WPBA Tour. I also seem to remember her being interviewed on ESPN, and it wasn't for losing matches. In short, Iris is an amazing player and can beat anyone in the world on a good day. Besides those two, there are also the up and coming teenagers Cheska Centeno and Gillian Go who also played in the World 10 Ball Tournament. These girls can play very good speed.

Although this topic has come up before on AZ, people in the USA still don't understand that there is an entire world of pool and billiards in Asia that we are not exposed to here. People actually fill up the arena to watch them play over there and carry the matches live on TV. FYI, Rubilen and Iris once wanted to come to the USA and play when the WPBA was at full strength and popular, but before they could do that, they had to get government approval for the Visas and their sponsor had to provide the funds and approve their schedule (all tough to do for lady athletes in the PI). But nowadays, they really have no reason to travel here to the USA. Asia is where the action is for the ladies now.

All that said, I have watched Rubilen play many times and consider Iris a personal friend. They are both first class ladies in every regard and humble champions true the standards of their male counterparts. Very few women in the world can play anywhere near their level (for that matter, not that many men can either). So please, just order Filipino or Asia television my friend. You will soon see that the Filipino women are out there, and they are a strong force to be reckoned with. It is just tough to make a living in the Philippines, and many of them than can play well, cannot devote the necessary time to train without financial sponsors to help them.
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Thanks for responding with knowledge and accuracy.

Many men, including many on AZ, operate with a default mindset that looks down at people of color and women...
 
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