Why you don't tap tables using a template!!

troyroy78

troyroy78

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From many discussions with many people, i did some research into tapped tables. Now on AZ i can see that there is a lot of interest in getting the perfect rack and that tapping tables might be the best option allowing for racking with hands.

People don't realize that tapping the table actually damages the table, please find some pics of what a table looks like after it has been tapped

Personally i would not recommend tapping a table, as in the long run its only going to mess up the table and create more trouble.

Using a Magic Ball Rack Pro is the best option in my opinion

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Seems to me that a tapped table itself creates an imperfect rack...I mean, with every ball sitting in a "dimple", the break itself would be altered from a break of balls racked resting on a level surface. Not to mention the funny shots that would happen with whitey or an object ball rolling across these dimples...slow rolls would be difficult at best.
 
wait wait wait, is that 2nd pic the slate? What were they tapping with, a ball-peen hammer?
 
troyroy78 said:
From many discussions with many people, i did some research into tapped tables. Now on AZ i can see that there is a lot of interest in getting the perfect rack and that tapping tables might be the best option allowing for racking with hands.

People don't realize that tapping the table actually damages the table, please find some pics of what a table looks like after it has been tapped

Personally i would not recommend tapping a table, as in the long run its only going to mess up the table and create more trouble.

Using a Magic Ball Rack Pro is the best option in my opinion

tappedtablecloth.jpg


damagedslatefromtappedtable.jpg
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This table has been tapped very improperly. It looks as it was tapped with a hammer. You will never see marks in the slate if it is done properly.

I play most of the times on tapped tables and never had issues with it, even when slow rolling balls on the rack area.
 
troyroy78 said:
Personally i would not recommend tapping a table, as in the long run its only going to mess up the table and create more trouble.

Using a Magic Ball Rack Pro is the best option in my opinion
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Says the guy that just started a thread selling a product that competes with the racking templates used at the Eurotour's etc.

If you can't beat a product without bashing the others, you shouldn't be in sale, imo.

I have used both Magic Rack and a tapping template, and have none complaints about either of them. Both are great products. I had all my 22 tables tapped and NONE of them were damaged.

You sure you didn't tap this table yourself to increase your sale? :rolleyes:
 
Roy Steffensen said:
Says the guy that just started a thread selling a product that competes with the racking templates used at the Eurotour's etc.

If you can't beat a product without bashing the others, you shouldn't be in sale, imo.

I have used both Magic Rack and a tapping template, and have none complaints about either of them. Both are great products. I had all my 22 tables tapped and NONE of them were damaged.

You sure you didn't tap this table yourself to increase your sale? :rolleyes:
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Hahaha now thats funny, how did you know roy? i was using a 20 ton hammer to tap the balls in.
 
troyroy78 said:
Hahaha now thats funny, how did you know roy? i was using a 20 ton hammer to tap the balls in.
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Nice to see that you do know that if you tap the balls as recommended, and not overdoing it, there will be no damage.

Recommended tapping is using another ball to tap lightly 3 times on another ball.

If done correct, it is impossible to damage the slate.

Btw, your product looks good too. I am currently trying a Magic Rack, and I like it.

I still haven't decided if I like it better than the tapping though. Both methods work just fine.
 
Hard Question

I own a pool room in Austria (Vienna) and i am tapping my tables now for app. 5 years, and.....
if you do it properly it will not damage the tables in that way, but then you have to do it each week.
If you do it a little harder, it will not damage the table too, but on slow roles there can be some missroles - that´s correct.

But the biggest problem for me is that normal guests of my pool room are not interested in that way to rack.
They rack with the triangles and not with there hand, but the club player want thight racks, so....... :confused::confused:

I think the MBR will be the best possibility for both, if it will work, and i hope it will :grin-square:

Pool rooms who didn´t want to TAP there tables in the past don´t have to do that in the future to get the perfect RACK.
So we could play tournaments around the world, and each time, at each room, will get the perfect tight rack, if..........

MBR will realy work that good :grin-square:

That´s my little dream :rolleyes:

Erich
 
First, if that is slate in the picture (why are there two separate greys in the picture or is that an illusion), was it damaged, or was that just dust patterns like you normally get with a foot spot?

Secondly, why do you assume that the magic ball rack will not give similar results? Is it because it will not be placed in the same position each time? It is repeatedly breaking the balls in the same precise location over a long period of time that causes those marks on the cloth.
 
The tout wars are in full swing.

The tout wars are in full swing. These guys cry, "Don't knock any product until you try it" while they tout the crap out of their stuff, then they knock the crap out of anyone else's product. Got a kick out of how the touts attacked anyone who questioned their product.

ps..they tap the balls with another ball, not a 3 pound hammer. I'd rather tap the balls and remove the template than leave a template on the table to interfere with the play of the game.
And shouldn't you use the for sale section to tout your products and not the main forums?
 
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pocketpared said:
The tout wars are in full swing. These guys cry, "Don't knock any product until you try it" while they tout the crap out of their stuff, then they knock the crap out of anyone else's product. Got a kick out of how the touts attacked anyone who questioned their product.

ps..they tap the balls with another ball, not a 3 pound hammer. I'd rather tap the balls and remove the template than leave a template on the table to interfere with the play of the game.
And shouldn't you use the for sale section to tout your products and not the main forums?
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Where do i name anyone else's product?, i state racking template thats like stating triangle. I do not refer to anyone else's product.
 
The fact the matter is, does not matter if it is slatron or real slate, I will never tap the balls in the racking area. I do not care what products it is.
I fell that there is a lot of jealously now after the Magic Rack Pro taking off... The product is one of those things that you kick yourself in the stomach for not coming with that idea yourself.
What is even funny is that, now that the Magic Rack is out I see all sorts of funny gizmos and templates trying to do the same as the Magic Rack. Interfering with play?
Why don't you ask all the players that used the rack in the Philippines in the World 10 Ball Tourney?
It is not even worth the discussion because I rather have a perfect rack all the time than a bad rack and somebody cheating when racking.
With the Magic Rack, there are no excuses, period!
 
This thread is equivalent to the makers of the tapping template posting a picture of a 6 ball cluster sitting on top of a magic rack with Efren looking over it scratching his head and a caption that says "This is why you don't use a Magic Rack!"
 
Masayoshi said:
This thread is equivalent to the makers of the tapping template posting a picture of a 6 ball cluster sitting on top of a magic rack with Efren looking over it scratching his head and a caption that says "This is why you don't use a Magic Rack!"
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Can you elaborate? I didn't get that?
 
If those are dents in the slate caused by tapping balls, I would suspect the balls themselves are little more than dust!!!!


I guess I'm old school. Give me a Diamond wood rack and I'm quite happy!

Steve
 
BENFICA said:
Can you elaborate? I didn't get that?
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Sorry for the run-on sentence.

This thread is equivalent to the makers of the template posting a picture of a 6 ball cluster sitting on top of a magic rack with Efren looking over it scratching his head. The picture also has a caption that says "This is why you don't use a Magic Rack!"
 
Actually, the magic rack isn't taking off.

BENFICA said:
The fact the matter is, does not matter if it is slatron or real slate, I will never tap the balls in the racking area. I do not care what products it is.
I fell that there is a lot of jealously now after the Magic Rack Pro taking off... The product is one of those things that you kick yourself in the stomach for not coming with that idea yourself.
What is even funny is that, now that the Magic Rack is out I see all sorts of funny gizmos and templates trying to do the same as the Magic Rack. Interfering with play?
Why don't you ask all the players that used the rack in the Philippines in the World 10 Ball Tourney?
It is not even worth the discussion because I rather have a perfect rack all the time than a bad rack and somebody cheating when racking.
With the Magic Rack, there are no excuses, period!
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Actually, the magic rack isn't taking off. Just a fad touted heavily that will fade into oblivion. People who play for anything over $10 don't wan't anything interfering with their game. The Delta 13 is still the best choice, not the gimmick du jour.
 
BENFICA said:
The fact the matter is, does not matter if it is slatron or real slate, I will never tap the balls in the racking area. I do not care what products it is.
I fell that there is a lot of jealously now after the Magic Rack Pro taking off... The product is one of those things that you kick yourself in the stomach for not coming with that idea yourself.
What is even funny is that, now that the Magic Rack is out I see all sorts of funny gizmos and templates trying to do the same as the Magic Rack. Interfering with play?
Why don't you ask all the players that used the rack in the Philippines in the World 10 Ball Tourney?
It is not even worth the discussion because I rather have a perfect rack all the time than a bad rack and somebody cheating when racking.
With the Magic Rack, there are no excuses, period!
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My Rack-M-Rite Racking Template is the patented original that started it all. It has a 10 year history in professional tournaments first in the US and then was copied in Europe and used on the Euro Tour for years and has also been used in the World Ten Ball Championships. If you don't believe me ask David Vandenburg tournament director of the Billiard Channel Tour or Paul Potier who was in charge of tapping the tables and training the APA volunteers to rack the balls, or anyone on the Euro Tour.

When I invented this thing no one even knew the corner ball was dead. We had to move the 9 ball to the spot after the first tournament. As for who is copying whom, I'd suspect the ball spacing on these other "gizmos" is very similar to the spacing on my template. The spacing is the key. And you shouldn't assume we didn't think of these other ways to implement that lean in toward the middle just because we took the simplest route.
 
I guess that Pro's like Mika Immonen that are are trying push this to rack to major events don't know what they are doing.
I am not knocking anybody's products... But all all I can tell you is that the Magic Rack rack does not leave any dents, marks or any other type of trails in the cloth.
I also love the Delta 13, the best classic rack ever produced, no doubt.
 
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