Willie Hoppe Titlist Cues
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They are potentially worth $100-$300 each if nice woods, straight, good condition and .880" or thicker at 29" from bottom. Send me the 13 cues sight unseen, including the box of bumpers, and i'll pick the best one & do a very nice conversion for you. To be honest, if the cues fit the above criteria, they'll be worth a little more than the conversion but you'll have to piece them out & put in the effort to sell them & get the money. Oh, and i'm kinda slow. Just wanna be clear & honest 
The offer stands.
The offer stands.cues
Please post a picture or two of the points on the cues. As said above this will be the most telling issue for us to consider. I'll split the offer with qbilder and you can get two conversion cues out of thirteen. Since he asked first you can send him the odd one. I'll take 6 and build a cue for you, he can have seven and build one for you. How does that sound to you both?
Tom Gedris, Triple Cross Cues
Please post a picture or two of the points on the cues. As said above this will be the most telling issue for us to consider. I'll split the offer with qbilder and you can get two conversion cues out of thirteen. Since he asked first you can send him the odd one. I'll take 6 and build a cue for you, he can have seven and build one for you. How does that sound to you both?
Tom Gedris, Triple Cross Cues
Please post a picture or two of the points on the cues. As said above this will be the most telling issue for us to consider. I'll split the offer with qbilder and you can get two conversion cues out of thirteen. Since he asked first you can send him the odd one. I'll take 6 and build a cue for you, he can have seven and build one for you. How does that sound to you both?
Tom Gedris, Triple Cross Cues
that was so nice of you to include yourself in someone else' offer.
These 13 cues and the bumpers will no dobut pay for the Gold Crown you just bought.
Please post a picture or two of the points on the cues. As said above this will be the most telling issue for us to consider. I'll split the offer with qbilder and you can get two conversion cues out of thirteen. Since he asked first you can send him the odd one. I'll take 6 and build a cue for you, he can have seven and build one for you. How does that sound to you both?
Tom Gedris, Triple Cross Cues
For a nano second I was ok with the offer. I like you plenty fine, Tom, and wouldn't mind a bit splitting a deal with you. But in this case, i'll be lucky if 3 of these cues are convertable without having to cut short & add lots of extra length. I know this era of green label cues all too well. They're seemingly never thick enough. So to be able to justify it to myself for the work & time vs. what i'm actually gonna get, i'm gonna have to pass on your offer. As of now I don't know if they are straight, good shape, and thick enough. I'm gambling on this offer already. Cutting it in half would simply be twice the risk for half the pay. I hope you understand.
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Wow, had no idea!
Thank you all for your interest in these cues. I am shocked and honered by some of the names that have contacted me. I will try and get a pic of the forearms posted today.
Its gonna take a bit to consider the offers.
Thank you all for your interest in these cues. I am shocked and honered by some of the names that have contacted me. I will try and get a pic of the forearms posted today.
Its gonna take a bit to consider the offers.
somebody has to come up with a good price........so hell make a sale move
Doubtful. His best option would be swapping for a conversion, regardless of with me or somebody else. Fact is that no cuemaker is gonna want to gamble a lot of cash on something that might be a huge loss. I sure wouldn't. If you have ever done many conversions of Titleist cues, you'd understand what i'm saying. It's a crapshoot getting a good one, so you may look at 20 of them to find one that's well suited for conversion. Even then, as fun as they are to convert due to bringing an historical item back to use, they are never really worth much except for from top teir builders.
so would like 150 be good 250 which is a good gamble?
It's all up to you. Personally, I wouldn't give a dollar for a Titleist that I personally inspected & found to be either non-convertable or too hard tro convert. That's why I never offered cash. That would be foolish. I don't buy any wood site unseen unless it's from somebody I know well & trust & who knows exactly what they are talking about. By offering a conversion, it's something i'll be losing only time & limited materials on if it doesn't work out in my best interest. And he'd be getting a fair deal either way because a Titleist conversion from me that's done up fancy will likely sell used for $2G's or more. Yes, he could part out everything he has for a little more cash than my cue would be worth, granted that the cues are perfect, but that's work he'll have to do & time he'll have to spend. I'm not trying to rob anybody. But i'm also not gonna put myself in a situation where i'll get robbed. I like dealing fair both ways so everybody's happy. Honesty & true intentions make the best business.
I know all too well what the chances are that most of these cues are worthless. That's why i'm not working hard to get them. I put a public offer out for everybody to see & was honest. Either he agrees or he doesn't. Realistically, i'd expect to get three good conversion cues, one of which would be used for him, leaving me with two. So in essence, i'd be giving up a $2G cue for $600 worth of materials. But on that $600 i'd make $4G's. And I wouldn't actually be paying $600 for the blanks, but instead i'd be paying with time & labor. As I stated, it's a gamble. In my case, it's a well calculated gamble. If somebody just up & offered the guy $150 each for all 13 blanks, unless he's a top teir builder he'd have a very tough time recouperating his investment. Even offering $150 each to try and resell for $300 each would be a huge leap of faith because i'm doubting there's thirteen people in the world who'd pay $300 for a Titleist blank without knowing it's measurements are plenty thick enough for conversion and straight. Like I said, it's a calculated gamble. I calculated my odds of success before I made an offer. If you don't calculate your own risks, then you are not playing a smart ball game.
I believe Eric really knows his business in this case. He has definitely made a valid offer for which you will get a great cue that you can either sell or keep. It sounds like you do have an investment opportunity if that is your goal. I can see you making a MORE guaranteed profit by taking Eric up on his offer while at the same time not having to hassle with trying to sell separately. All I know is that with my dealings with Eric, he is an honorable person and he will not screw you or take advantage. On a sidenote, he is not fast but you will get a great product.
Kobachi
Scarred but Smarter
Side note
Total side note...just judging by the condition of the labels and butt bumpers on the 4 or 5 you can see in the pictures, these cues "seem" like they've been well taken care of. And the box of ku bumpers alongside, he might have stumbled on a little brunswick time capsule...who knows...more pictures and measurements are definitely in order.
Good luck all involved, hopefully a happy and productive future awaits these sticks I'd love to see the finished products if some conversions are done.
Kevin
Total side note...just judging by the condition of the labels and butt bumpers on the 4 or 5 you can see in the pictures, these cues "seem" like they've been well taken care of. And the box of ku bumpers alongside, he might have stumbled on a little brunswick time capsule...who knows...more pictures and measurements are definitely in order.
Good luck all involved, hopefully a happy and productive future awaits these sticks
I'd love to see the finished products if some conversions are done. Kevin
I checked 29" diameter. .860, .840, .830, .735-.795. Will need to be extended.
That's just the ones I have .
Some of the ones I have, have flat surfaces. Leading me to conclude they used green woods then.
That's just the ones I have .
Some of the ones I have, have flat surfaces. Leading me to conclude they used green woods then.
They sure look to be in nice original condition, but at .860 being the largest, .840 being the second, and everything else much thinner, they are exactly as I suspected. Only a couple of them are convertable, with only one of them being convertable without doing major work with extending the back & that's only if it's straight.
I'm sorry but i'm gonna have to retract my offer. I was willing to make the trade as long as a "blind" trade. But now that I know exactly what you have, it would really be a waste for me. Only one cue would be useful for me & it would be used up building for you. I do appreciate your willingness to share the info. Good luck with your sale. You might consider just keeping them for neat house cues. They'd be awesome for that.
I'm sorry but i'm gonna have to retract my offer. I was willing to make the trade as long as a "blind" trade. But now that I know exactly what you have, it would really be a waste for me. Only one cue would be useful for me & it would be used up building for you. I do appreciate your willingness to share the info. Good luck with your sale. You might consider just keeping them for neat house cues. They'd be awesome for that.
