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Here is a situation I faced tonight playing one hole, and I won, yes I admitt Im very agressive, the score was 6-6 my pocket is labeled A and here is how I won from this situation..

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would you have played it differntly?



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Nice shot.... That is aggressive.... and takes alot of confidence to shoot it in that situation....

I am confused as how you put low left on it and got it to react like center left.... Low left would create a bigger angle from there and completely miss the 9... Unless you went rail first..... or shot it with alot of speed...
 
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Thats a pretty crazy shot to go for. nice job making it. I'm not all that great a one pocket, but i probably would have just thin cut the 13, pushing it and 9 over to my side, sending the cue to the bottom rail then back up table
 
right here you're actually in perfect position to shoot one of the favorite 1P shots among players:

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Now am I going to get called crazy for this one?
 
... and this one if you want to be a bit more conservative. Let's say you're playing a much weaker mover than you - this would be the better shot unless you have my other shot down.

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So yes, I would've played it differently, I would've chosen one of these shots, depending on who I am playing. I would never go for that shot, you're risking too much on a low-percentage shot - and from there things can go really wrong.
Learn how to hit the first shot I diagrammed, that will help you a ton in 1P.

I'm happy the shot worked for you last night, but I hope you don't decide to do that again in that situation now that you're introduced to better solutions..... unless you're playing me, then you can just fire at anything :)
 
BPG24 said:
Nice shot.... That is aggressive.... and takes alot of confidence to shoot it in that situation....

I am confused as how you put low left on it and got it to react like center left.... Low left would create a bigger angle from there and completely miss the 9... Unless you went rail first..... or shot it with alot of speed...
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I'm curious about this also. I've been shooting shots like this recently,but without low left or left at all. It's admittedly harder to make this way, but I come out toward the center more accurately and more often.
 
I'm not a very good or a particularly aggressive one hole player, but the famous two balls spotted shot is not a high percentage shot for most of us, even if we've practiced it a bit. The other shot shown, with the cue ball dropping behind the ball on the end rail is the shot IMHO, but yours worked very well didn't it ? Keep at it...Tom
 
Pushout said:
I'm curious about this also. I've been shooting shots like this recently,but without low left or left at all. It's admittedly harder to make this way, but I come out toward the center more accurately and more often.
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Are you saying you can pocket that ball without using inside english? I'd like to see that. Not saying it can't be done. I'd just like to see it.
 
Hal said:
Are you saying you can pocket that ball without using inside english? I'd like to see that. Not saying it can't be done. I'd just like to see it.
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Well I'll be brave and say it can't be done lol... worth it to me if someone can video it. But yeah, that's an interesting play dok. I would have considered it if I could be sure of hitting the correct side of those spotted balls. I figure that if I fail, I will leave the OB pretty close and in a place where it can't be cross banked. As long as I hit that cluster on the correct side I shouldn't sell out a cut, tho probably a bank.

I like aze's shot on the thirteen, it's one of those shots you need to see to believe.
 
SPINDOKTOR said:
Here is a situation I faced tonight playing one hole, and I won, yes I admitt Im very agressive, the score was 6-6 my pocket is labeled A and here is how I won from this situation..

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would you have played it differntly?
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No, I would have played it exactly as you did. Nice work. Good gamble.

You must have an OB-1 shaft. :D :D :D

Seriously though, that is a very good shot to practice for your one pocket game as it comes up very often and any one pocket player should add that shot to their aresenal.
JoeyA
 
tpdtom said:
I'm not a very good or a particularly aggressive one hole player, but the famous two balls spotted shot is not a high percentage shot for most of us, even if we've practiced it a bit. The other shot shown, with the cue ball dropping behind the ball on the end rail is the shot IMHO, but yours worked very well didn't it ? Keep at it...Tom
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I humbly disagree. The kiss/bank shot that AZE diagrammed is not really difficult or risky (provided the shooter can draw the cueball back as shown, otherwise leaving a bank is a risk). The score and table layout make this a perfect situation for the kiss/bank shot and I think if you polled all the top 1p players, they would all shoot it without hesitation. As to the shot presented by OP, I salute his making the shot and getting out, but the shot breaks one of the cardinal rules of 1P: unless given no other options, ALWAYS know where whitey is going after a shot; the risk/reward ratio for cutting the 4 in is way too low IMHO. Thanks for providing a good thread.
 
Yeah, the kiss/bank (as jna called it) is not a very difficult shot - you might not make it every time, but the out-come will almost always be similar, both balls are going for that hole and the cue-ball goes back uptable.

Silver was over here betting on it shot-for-shot even money. That's deff. the shot. The other shot is probably better when ahead in score and playing a weaker player - even then I'm still probably shooting the first.
 
AZE said:
right here you're actually in perfect position to shoot one of the favorite 1P shots among players:

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Now am I going to get called crazy for this one?
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this is the smart best and most productive way to hit the shot. good call AZE.
 
Hal said:
Are you saying you can pocket that ball without using inside english? I'd like to see that. Not saying it can't be done. I'd just like to see it.
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After looking at the shot again, and some thought, I've been shooting them not frozen to the rail. Not sure if I've hit any recently that were frozen. I'll have to try setting the shot up frozen to the rail, and see if I can make it. I have been making shots at that angle that weren't frozen, though.
 
Hal said:
Are you saying you can pocket that ball without using inside english? I'd like to see that. Not saying it can't be done. I'd just like to see it.
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I may have spoke too soon, the angle looks a lot narrower than what I've shot lately. I'll try to set it up this afternoon or tonight and try it. I haven't been practicing specific shots continuously, just shooting similar if they come up. May not be able to make it without inside english, but I'll give it a try.
 
I still want to know how he got low inside to react that way... It makes no sense.... See my previous post
 
OK, I have egg on my face:( I came close once out of several tries with no english, but even shortening up the shot on my 4x8 I didn't make it. I still think it's possible, but very tough, and I'm no where near up to par, playing wise. And, though I did make it a couple of times using inside english, the cue ball came off the rail to my left looking down the table, and that's with just a smidgen of spin. I'd like to try it some more when I'm feeing better. It is very tough for me, as diagramed.
 
BPG24 said:
I still want to know how he got low inside to react that way... It makes no sense.... See my previous post
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You do realize the shot is rail first?

you could use Center Left and pocket the 4, I couldnt gurentee the same result however.. My reasoning was I want as much spin off the rail as possible, the low with side seems to dig into the rail more, for whatever reason.


Im not some one pocket expert, I am a novice at the game, as I have played very little, as I study the game and I find winning situations I'll post them here.. I want to do this to get a differnt perspective from one pocket players to help me understand the game better. I have no one really close to teach me, so Im using Az as a resource.

Here is another situation where I won, and they guy refused to ever play me again.. I needed 1 ball to win, and this match seemed like it took forever, I needed 1 ball for the longest time, this guy had beat me previously and I hadnt missed a ball any game we had played, he played seriously tough safties and I was tired of the back and forth game so I went for it. I had made this shot before on the rail, for money, so I knew the shot, and it is easier off the rail. I used center ball..


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Pushout said:
OK, I have egg on my face:( I came close once out of several tries with no english, but even shortening up the shot on my 4x8 I didn't make it. I still think it's possible, but very tough, and I'm no where near up to par, playing wise. And, though I did make it a couple of times using inside english, the cue ball came off the rail to my left looking down the table, and that's with just a smidgen of spin. I'd like to try it some more when I'm feeing better. It is very tough for me, as diagramed.
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Im prepared to video any of these shots, I wouldnt post any shot I havent made or cant make, just pay the shipping.


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