Women and pool

Sarah's break

I can attest to what Sarah is saying about her break speed. My break speed in that contest was around 28.0, and I witnessed Sarah break 29.0. I was astonished. I have to say that in my opinion Sarah has for sure the hardest and probably the best break in women's pool. I also believe she will be climbing the rankings into the top five very soon.

Chuck Raulston
 
drivermaker said:
Out of curiosity, how does Keith play on a snooker table, ?
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does he........he does very well IMO

i'll give you an example of what its like to see keith play (i had the honor of keeping score for a snooker game of keith's, jam you may remember this, he played "da bald guy" in richmond, and came out on top)

this is what it was like.........you heard two sounds........the ball being hit and the back of the pocket.........

zinggggggggg................bappppppppppp

he was firing them in a 100 mph, banking the ball.............i was very very very impressed.


on another note, i play on a snooker table a couple times a week (not the small american table....the full 12 ft) and after a couple hours of that, a 9 ft looks like a barbox.

VAP
 
That reminds me of a time when I (unwillingly) backed someone playing snooker down at Depot Billiards here in Columbus. I don't think he made a ball. When they were done, I asked him why he played him if he wasn't any good, to which he said, "Well, let's see how good you are" and set up a shot for me, which I snapped in, as well as the next three or four shots he set up. His reply then: "I guess I should have had you play him." lol
 
women competing with men ...

Because:

They are younger in the sport than men, and most are afraid getting humilated.
think Jr. High player playing Sr. High ...

Allison and Karen would only finish 9-12th at the best. Few women have entered men's tournaments, about best finish I have heard of is 17th.

Women can not shoot 'muscle shots'. Although most of those come from
men's money matchups rather than TV tournament matches.

Men players have a tendency to intimidate women players, and the women
players become 'flustered'. Ever notice when a woman player that can play some gets 'upset', that she can not get a handle back on her game, much like
young men players.

Men players, professionals, play better safeties than women professional
players, and generally control the cue ball better.

Taking the side break away from 9 ball would greatly affect the women's game, but would not make that much difference for the men.

Jeanette Lee and Allison Fisher are the only 2 woman pros that I have ever
saw shoot a cut shot with inside english and take the cue ball 3 rails for shape
on the next ball at the other end of the table.

I have never seen a woman pro that I didn't feel that I could beat, but have seen many men pros I felt I couldn't beat. (in fact, in 1971, in Houston, I beat the #1 rated woman pro that was the US Open champion right after
Jean Balukis lost out. Her boyfriend was the come on, she was the hammer, but after I took $400 off of her, she quit.)
 
Snapshot9 said:
Because:
Allison and Karen would only finish 9-12th at the best. Few women have entered men's tournaments, about best finish I have heard of is 17th.
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9 through 12 in what? In the U.S. Open, that would be considered a respectable finish. Only contenders finish there. If you're talking about Regional Events, Karen Corr has a Joss win under her belt and numerous finishes above 17th and these are fairly strong Regional events. Not to take away from the gist of your argument. There is still a gap, for the most part but that gap is getting more and more narrow every year. I see that "power" stroke in players like Kelly Fisher and I wouldn't bet that Karen Corr couldn't do ANYTHING. The woman is technically perfect most times I witness her. It's deceiving because many of the women get extremely low on their shots and will avoid popping balls in like men who frequently play a little more upright but I'm not ready to say all of them are not capable.
 
chefjeff said:
I understand that some think porn is immoral. That makes perfect sense.

But, frankly, I don't believe it, coming from a person who uses what appears to be a naked picture of herself right next to the "anti-porn" message.

You can't have it both ways.

Jeff Livingston
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Sure she can, it's a female perogative thing ... you're not married are you Jeff ? ;)

Dave
 
As a female pool player, I have to agree that men play better overall. Any man can beat the best players on the ladies tour, but not any woman can beat the best players on the mens tour.
 
marissayi said:
Any man can beat the best players on the ladies tour
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I disagree with that statement. I don't think any man can. Effren or Strickland v. Fisher or Corr...I'd probably stick my money on the boys, though I believe it would be close...it depends on the way they are playing...race, breaks, that kinda thing. But can say Jake in Florida kick say Sarah Rousey's ass?? Not even a chance. Hell my bet is even Mello can kick Jake's ass. :eek:
 
FWIW, a couple of years ago at the Joss finale I watched Bustamante play Karen Corr and it went hill-hill with Bustamante taking it. Could have gone either way in the last game with a safety battle but it was definitely a great match. I don't know how consistent that outcome would be but that match proved to a lot of people that Karen could hold her own with the men, including myself.

Dave
 
Gambling

I believe I've heard that Sarah gambles. I'm sure others do on occasion also. Are there any "hardcore" female road-warriors out there? Other WPBA members that gamble frequently? Oops. . . . I mean practice for "table time and sasparillas". :p
 
ScottR said:
I believe I've heard that Sarah gambles. I'm sure others do on occasion also. Are there any "hardcore" female road-warriors out there? Other WPBA members that gamble frequently? Oops. . . . I mean practice for "table time and sasparillas". :p
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I've seen Monica and Helena playing some guys in Atlanta for some, but don't know how they were playing or for what.
 
landshark77 said:
I disagree with that statement. I don't think any man can. Effren or Strickland v. Fisher or Corr...I'd probably stick my money on the boys, though I believe it would be close...it depends on the way they are playing...race, breaks, that kinda thing. But can say Jake in Florida kick say Sarah Rousey's ass?? Not even a chance. Hell my bet is even Mello can kick Jake's ass. :eek:
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I agree completely with you ls77. Once you get further down in the rankings the field isn't the strongest, but it'll take a pretty strong male player to beat any of the top 15-20 women, imo. That being said I did beat Gerda 2-0 in challenge the pro...lol. However, I have a sneaky suspicion that she may own me in a long race. :)
 
ScottR said:
I believe I've heard that Sarah gambles. I'm sure others do on occasion also. Are there any "hardcore" female road-warriors out there? Other WPBA members that gamble frequently? Oops. . . . I mean practice for "table time and sasparillas". :p
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I love to gamble :D
 
ScottR said:
Are there any "hardcore" female road-warriors out there? :p
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i'm totally agains mentioning names, as to not knock peoples action.so i'll just say she's pretty well known, nicknamed the "road warrior". she gambles ALL the time, always in some action. i'm sure someone will go ahead and mention her name here.

VAP
 
DaveK said:
Sure she can, it's a female perogative thing ... you're not married are you Jeff ? ;)

Dave
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Yes, I am married...and my comment about "both ways" was NOT meant to be a sexual innuendo. It was meant to highlight the poster's demonstration of words explicitly contradicting behavior.

I know your comment is light-hearted, and I appreciate all the humor here, but being a baby boomer, I've about had it with the double standard bullshit. I've lived with it for years and it is only getting more and more stupid and destructive to relationships.

Does it really matter? Well, a leader in one of the dumbest organizations on planet earth has become the ultimate outcome of such perverted thinking:

http://www.ifeminists.net/introduction/editorials/2005/0420.html

This article is an example of pure violence and certainly is not what is happening here, but the thinking processes and contradictions are the exact same.

Don't piss down my back and tell me it's raining.

Jeff Livingston
 
chefjeff said:
Yes, I am married...and my comment about "both ways" was NOT meant to be a sexual innuendo. It was meant to highlight the poster's demonstration of words explicitly contradicting behavior.

I know your comment is light-hearted, and I appreciate all the humor here, but being a baby boomer, I've about had it with the double standard bullshit. I've lived with it for years and it is only getting more and more stupid and destructive to relationships.
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I agree totally agree. My comment was light-hearted, and meant to be somewhat humourous, but grounded in truth. If it upset or offended you in any way I appologize, that was never my intent. I just see a lot of double standards and point some out. The one in question here also struck me as playing both sides.

Dave, a late boomer at 47
 
DaveK said:
If it upset or offended you in any way I appologize,
Dave, a late boomer at 47
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Not a bit, buddy...I always appreciate your posts.

Sincerely,

Jeff Livingston
 
chefjeff said:
Well, a leader in one of the dumbest organizations on planet earth has become the ultimate outcome of such perverted thinking:

http://www.ifeminists.net/introduct...hat's some sick bitches in THAT organization.
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drivermaker said:
Good points and great article...but I don't know how in the hell you even ended up there and found it. Just clicking on gave me the willys. UGH!! That's some sick bitches in THAT organization.
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I can't seem to get out of this discussion... :eek:

The author, Wendy McElroy, founded ifeminist, I think. She is one hell of a brilliant writer and I've read much of her stuff. There's a link on that page to her main site. I found out about her because I get much of my news via email from rationalreview, and that's where I found this article. Here's today's version, if you're interested. If you like the evening tv news, you'll hate this stuff. If you hate the evening news, you just might like this stuff:

http://www.rationalreview.com/news/

Enjoy,

Jeff Livingston
 
chefjeff said:
http://www.ifeminists.net/introduction/editorials/2005/0420.html

This article is an example of pure violence and certainly is not what is happening here, but the thinking processes and contradictions are the exact same.

Jeff Livingston
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That article really pissed me off. Rape is nothing to joke about. It robs you of your dignity, security, and self-respect. I can't believe someone would make a fale accusation of rape for attention. I feel sick thinking about it.
 
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