I think Ozzy/csi became or partnered with Predator for the Predator tour. I don’t know for fact, but it’s my strong suspicion.
World 10-Ball Championships, Feb-Mar 2024, Las Vegas, The Rio
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At least it’s not best of 2 sets, I suppose.
Predator and CSI were the "Founding Partners" of the US Pro Billiard Series. CSI was even shown on the primary logo for the series; it was the Predator/CSI US Pro Billiard Series. Sometime last year that seemed to change. CSI is still listed as one of sponsors or partners, but it doesn't seem to have the same standing in the series as it used to. It's now the "Predator Pro Billiard Series." And the events and their details are no longer shown on the CSI website.
If all we have to go by is the logo is smaller, I wouldn’t put much stock on that. Maybe predator just wants their logo to be more prominent.
My bet is CSI is still running everything, and predator is paying them.
That the events aren’t on the CSI website is intriguing. If they still have a major hand in producing and promoting you’d want that to be on your website.
And then there is also the lack of CSI dignitaries at the World 8 Ball trophy presentation.
Finally, a new pro billiard tour YouTube channel was set up aside from the CSI one. That would be an odd decision if CSI was involved because it means rebuilding an audience. The Pro Billaird channel has about 43k subscribers compared to the 223k of world billiard.tv
The part of the format I dislike is the shootout. Sets are great.
In the tour, evenly matched players could expect to go into a shootout 50% of the time. In the WC formats (best of 3, best of 5), going into a shootout is much less likely.
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Is that statistically the case?
On the tour, if they tie one set apiece, they go to a shootout. That was close to a 50% proposition for even players.
In the WC, they have to tie on sets and then go hill-hill in the final set.
I do agree that is a massive improvement over a 50% shootout rate. However, it still means that during what should be the most dramatic of matches (tied sets, tied games in the last set, winner takes all!) everything stops, and instead of a nail-biting last rack everyone is instead watching an anti-climactic shootout. It's the equivalent of if when an NBA game is tied at the end of regulation, instead of getting more basketball they suddenly decide to do a free throw shooting contest to determine the winner. Or if this past super bowl after having been tied they just did a field-goal kicking contest.
I was going to say the only irritable point was the venue, but it looks like the aged property has finally been treated to a huge renovation with 1,400 guest rooms having been renovated, a new food court, the casino upgraded, upgrades to the convention center and the pool reno will be completed by the end of March. I may actually play in the BCA event next year.
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I was going to say the only irritable point was the venue, but it looks like the aged property has finally been treated to a huge renovation with 1,400 guest rooms having been renovated, a new food court, the casino upgraded, upgrades to the convention center and the pool reno will be completed by the end of March. I may actually play in the BCA event next year.
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The Rio Hotel & Casino is on a multi-year journey to refresh the inside and exterior of the iconic Las Vegas resort. Come along for the ride in the stories below.www.riolasvegas.com
Also for locals the parking situation is great! You can park in the back and enter the convention center without even entering the casino!
I get spot shots can create dramatic moments. Just look at the Pia victory in the world teams. A big part of that is her winning a world championship in a moment on her own shoulders when otherwise in women’s events she’s yet to win a major let alone be any threat for a world championship. So it was a great underdog story.
But in a real world championship for 10-ball every match should be decided by actually playing 10-ball, not by going into sudden death doing a practice drill. It simply shouldn’t be a part of the event at all because it’s not part of 10-ball.
But in a real world championship for 10-ball every match should be decided by actually playing 10-ball, not by going into sudden death doing a practice drill. It simply shouldn’t be a part of the event at all because it’s not part of 10-ball.
I'll be there for a couple of days for the WC10B. I decided not to stay at the hotel based on multiple previous bad experiences. I think the new owners also have to get rid of all the previous senior staff if they want change.I was going to say the only irritable point was the venue, but it looks like the aged property has finally been treated to a huge renovation with 1,400 guest rooms having been renovated, a new food court, the casino upgraded, upgrades to the convention center and the pool reno will be completed by the end of March. I may actually play in the BCA event next year.
Rio Revealed Rio Revealed
The Rio Hotel & Casino is on a multi-year journey to refresh the inside and exterior of the iconic Las Vegas resort. Come along for the ride in the stories below.www.riolasvegas.com
A simple test will be whether small, unripe bananas are still $4 at the snack bar by the playing area. I talked to someone who talked to a food service person there. The cost of ingredients for meals had to be held to 10% of the price. I've heard multiple times that the standard for restaurants is 30%. Maybe that has changed with the remodel. We'll see if it comes through on the bananas though, because those cost less than 20 cents wholesale.
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Yep, I go out there every year for the BCA championships and rarely eat in the Rio due to the insane food prices. I doubt that dumping a bunch of money into remodeling the property is going to result in lower prices though.
That offers some hope. I hope to go next year. Had I gone this year I would have stayed downtown or across the street at the Gold Coast given what I saw at the Rio when I went to watch the 3C a couple years ago. Nothing seemed open and they needed some fast/ casual options other than the little stand in the tournament area.I was going to say the only irritable point was the venue, but it looks like the aged property has finally been treated to a huge renovation with 1,400 guest rooms having been renovated, a new food court, the casino upgraded, upgrades to the convention center and the pool reno will be completed by the end of March. I may actually play in the BCA event next year.
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Many 800- names I have never heard of. But still very strong field with about 2 dozen 800+ and 16 of top 20 Fargorate
Too bad they have shootout for decider, would rather they just have a one rack (pushout no runout) decider
THE CHAMPION WILL BE ANY OF THESE 800+
Albin Ouschan
Alex Kazakis
Alex Pagaulayan
Carlo Biado
Chang, Jung-Lin
Daniel Maciol
Ekenti Kaci
Fedor Gorst
Francisco Sanchez-Ruiz
Jayson Shaw
Joshua Filler
Ko Pin Yi
Ko Ping Chung
Mario He
Max Lechner
Naoyuki Oi
Oliver Szolnoki
Shane Vanboening
Sky Woodward
Wiktor Zielinski
Wojcieh Szewczyk
Wu, Kun-Lin
Yapp Aloysius
THE PARTY CRASHERS WHO JUST MAKE UP THE NUMBERS
Ali Al-Obaidli
Bader Alawadhi
Bashar Abdulmajeed
Danny Hewitt
Denis Grabe
Denis Laszkowski
Edgard Vallenas
Enrique Rojas
Gerson Martinez
Hayato Hijikata
Hsu, Jui-An
Hunter Lombardo
Jason Klatt
Jeremy Sossei
John Morra
Justin Sajich
Konrad Juszczyszyn
Luca Menn
Marco Teutscher
Mateusz Sniegocki
Mieszko Fortunski
Mikael Oegaard
Min-Ug Ha
Mohammad Ali Berjaoui
Mubarak Al Wahaibi
Mustafa Alnar
Punguan Hasiholan Sihombing
Radoslaw Babica
Ragnar Grönsten
Robbie Capito
Roman Hybler
Ruben Bautista Escalera
Shivam Arora
Sina Valizadeh
Stephen Holem
Sulivan Clark
Szymon Kural
Tyler Styer
Yannick Pongers
Yip Kin Ling
Yuma Dörner
$75K for champion , nice jump from $60K last year
Too bad they have shootout for decider, would rather they just have a one rack (pushout no runout) decider
THE CHAMPION WILL BE ANY OF THESE 800+
Albin Ouschan
Alex Kazakis
Alex Pagaulayan
Carlo Biado
Chang, Jung-Lin
Daniel Maciol
Ekenti Kaci
Fedor Gorst
Francisco Sanchez-Ruiz
Jayson Shaw
Joshua Filler
Ko Pin Yi
Ko Ping Chung
Mario He
Max Lechner
Naoyuki Oi
Oliver Szolnoki
Shane Vanboening
Sky Woodward
Wiktor Zielinski
Wojcieh Szewczyk
Wu, Kun-Lin
Yapp Aloysius
THE PARTY CRASHERS WHO JUST MAKE UP THE NUMBERS
Ali Al-Obaidli
Bader Alawadhi
Bashar Abdulmajeed
Danny Hewitt
Denis Grabe
Denis Laszkowski
Edgard Vallenas
Enrique Rojas
Gerson Martinez
Hayato Hijikata
Hsu, Jui-An
Hunter Lombardo
Jason Klatt
Jeremy Sossei
John Morra
Justin Sajich
Konrad Juszczyszyn
Luca Menn
Marco Teutscher
Mateusz Sniegocki
Mieszko Fortunski
Mikael Oegaard
Min-Ug Ha
Mohammad Ali Berjaoui
Mubarak Al Wahaibi
Mustafa Alnar
Punguan Hasiholan Sihombing
Radoslaw Babica
Ragnar Grönsten
Robbie Capito
Roman Hybler
Ruben Bautista Escalera
Shivam Arora
Sina Valizadeh
Stephen Holem
Sulivan Clark
Szymon Kural
Tyler Styer
Yannick Pongers
Yip Kin Ling
Yuma Dörner
$75K for champion , nice jump from $60K last year
Some of those party crashers are well able to cause upsets. Let's see how many of them manage to sneak into the final 16.
No Raga? Was really hoping to see him out here!