How is it possible that Karl Boyes, the 2010 World 8 Ball Champion, isn't invited to this years event? The guy has a kid in 2011 and has an off year, and now he's not invited back? Karl is a friend, but this sort of thing shouldn't happen to anyone.
World 8 Ball Championships - Ridiculousness
- Thread starter nathandumoulin
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How does the defending champion not have an automatic spot? That's ridiculous!
Where is the player list at? http://www.world8ballchampionship.com/ still only has 2011 info (as far as I can see)
I'm not sure where the player list is, but I received this information directly from the source.
Ahh gotcha. Lame =/
Why does Earl not get invites? Hes won it enough.
I think any tournament you win should offer and pay your entry if you want to defend your title.
The way I read this is he won it in 2010 and then did not perform in 2011 so he isn't among the qualifiers for 2012. What else is new should someone be on the list just because they won it sometime in the past? Competitors are judged by what they have done recently not by what they did sometime in the past.
Sometime in the past? He won the event previous to last. There's no way to be more recent than that without being the current champion. Lol
Karl is a super player. I agree--- I actually think all past-champs should get auto-invites at least for a 5 year period of time (minimum).
Someone dogged it with this one...
Someone dogged it with this one...
To the extent that there is a standard for inviting past champions to world championships, only the defending champion is invited back. None of the other previous champions are normally invited back. I think this is a reasonable policy -- if the champion from 5 years ago can't qualify this year to be among the 60 or so participants, then his game is not up to level needed.
Dennis Orcollo is the defending champion. (I see that his name is sometimes spelled Orcullo.)
In any case, the WC8B often has qualifying events at the venue just prior to the championships so that anyone may enter. Are those not being held this year?
He is not invited back because he has such a horrible attitude at these events. He is banned from several big events actually. There is a point where his game is forgot about because of other things. Just because you still have the champion game, doesn't mean you automatically get invites. As far as Karl goes, since he is not last years champ then its understandable, he should have to qualify just like everybody else.
This is kind of why pool lags behind golf. If you win a major, you win an exemption for a few years for the same event and other majors. This guarantees past champions continue to play (and past champions are what people want to see).
The powers that be seem to know everything though; hence, the current state of affairs.
This makes Barry Berhman and Greg Sullivan look pretty good....
...their champions are welcome back every time.
If you don't acknowledge your past then everything you do looks 'one-off'.
This is crazy -- Karl is the DEFENDING World 8-Ball Champion! Sounds like someone really fell asleep at the switch on this one -- and completely overlooked the fact that because there was no World 8-Ball Championship event held last year, that Karl never got the opportunity to defend his title!
I feel it comin'... an "addendum to press release" with back-pedaling statements defending the notion that "importance of prior year activity trumps the ability to defend even a standing title." Sheesh.
-Sean
I feel it comin'... an "addendum to press release" with back-pedaling statements defending the notion that "importance of prior year activity trumps the ability to defend even a standing title." Sheesh.
-Sean
The problem is that the tournament will be played with only a 64 man field this year.
This is down from 96 when Karl won it and down from the mysterious 112 that caused aggravation last year.
So there will be quite a number of top players not in the field.
There will be qualifiers for at least 8 spots and there should be details available on these in the next few days.
This is down from 96 when Karl won it and down from the mysterious 112 that caused aggravation last year.
So there will be quite a number of top players not in the field.
There will be qualifiers for at least 8 spots and there should be details available on these in the next few days.
KARL IS NOT THE DEFENDING CHAMPION.
It was held in February 2011 and Dennis Orcullo won the tournament
Dennis Orcullo won last year. Karl did play. I think it was 2009 when there was no event.
http://www.world8ballchampionship.com/results.html
Ray