Worst ball skid video, and GO!

[DelawareDogs]

A comment Stu made got me thinking to create a quick post. LOL
What's the worst ball skid that's been caught on camera?
Worst in terms of how much it skidded, or how detrimental the loss was because it was clearly a skid.

 

[Straightpool_99]

In snooker we call them "kicks". There are many crucial ones every year. I seem to get a lot more kicks on the snooker table. The lighter balls, softer shots may be to blame.

Here is a collection of kicks, some are in finals or on the hill:

 

[Greg M]

In snooker we call them "kicks". There are many crucial ones every year. I seem to get a lot more kicks on the snooker table. The lighter balls, softer shots may be to blame.

Here is a collection of kicks, some are in finals or on the hill:

I was about to comment on Kyren's kick about 0:30 in, until I saw Luca Brecel's one at 4:00. Jesus, the way the red went off to the right as we're looking...

 

[chefjeff]

Danny Di has a dvd that he used to sell, where he's run 98 balls, I believe, then the next shot skids and he misses.

He then talked about it in the sit down interview that follows.

Don't know if it's online, though.


Jeff Livingston

 

[Patrick Johnson]

Does "kick" in snooker mean any amount of throw? Some of those look to me like normal throw - and one or two other problems besides "kicks"... for instance, at about 2:35 it looked to me like he caught a kiss.

pj
chgo

 

[Straightpool_99]

Does "kick" in snooker mean any amount of throw? Some of those look to me like normal throw - and one or two other problems besides "kicks", for instance, at about 2:35 it looked to me like he caught a kiss.

pj
chgo

Kick and skid are synonyms. You didn't see the cueball jump on 2:35?

After your comment, I reviewed all the shots. I couldn't find a single shot that wasn't a kick of some sort.

 

[JusticeNJ]

I remember watching a snooker match with Mark Selby, I think, where the balls kicked so bad they actually swapped the entire ball set out in between frames.

 

[DelawareDogs]

Kick and skid are synonyms. You didn't see the cueball jump on 2:35?

After your comment, I reviewed all the shots. I couldn't find a single shot that wasn't a kick of some sort.

What about at 2:00? That looks like a missed ball. Then again I'm using my American eyes.

 

[Straightpool_99]

What about at 2:00? That looks like a missed ball. Then again I'm using my American eyes.

It was the most subtle one, and the only one I doubted a little bit. However the overall picture of sound, lack of cut and object ball curve convinced me.

 

[ChrisinNC]

Kick and skid are synonyms. You didn't see the cueball jump on 2:35?

After your comment, I reviewed all the shots. I couldn't find a single shot that wasn't a kick of some sort.

Skids are far easier to tell with pool balls than with snooker balls. With the solid color snooker balls, the only way you can really tell is by the cue ball jumping upon contact.

 

[Cuebuddy]

I have also mis-aimed shots and got a skid and made the ball because of the skid

 

[Straightpool_99]

Skids are far easier to tell with pool balls than with snooker balls. With the solid color snooker balls, the only way you can really tell is by the cue ball jumping upon contact.

I disagree. There are several indicators of a skid, all of which are a little bit dependent on experience to detect. These are all caused by the prolonged contact between the ball btw, :
1. Sound. The collision sound is lower in frequency.
2. Cue ball jump (as you stated)
3. A rolling cueball slows down faster than expected
4. Exaggerated throw on sidespin shots.
5. Often overlooked: Object ball turn. A forward rolling cueball that cuts an object ball, can, if the ball skids, cause a slight masse effect causing the object ball to turn abnormally. This is because the forward rolling cueball, with increased friction is the same (though much less pronounced) as a cue hitting down on the object ball off center. The most extreme examples I've seen have usually been around 1/4 ball cuts.

 

[ChrisinNC]

I disagree. There are several indicators of a skid, all of which are a little bit dependent on experience to detect. These are all caused by the prolonged contact between the ball btw, :
1. Sound. The collision sound is lower in frequency.
2. Cue ball jump (as you stated)
3. A rolling cueball slows down faster than expected
4. Exaggerated throw on sidespin shots.
5. Often overlooked: Object ball turn. A forward rolling cueball that cuts an object ball, can, if the ball skids, cause a slight masse effect causing the object ball to turn abnormally. This is because the forward rolling, with increased friction is the same (though much less pronounced) as a cue hitting down on the object ball off center.

Ok, I agree that the sound of the contact is the biggest giveaway.

 

[sjm]

The most brutal skids are the ones that decide matches, but on 3/22/2009, a skid actually decided the 10-ball event at Super Billiards Expo, then held at the Valley Forge Convention Center. Here's my post from March 2009 on the subject:

"For those who don't yet know, John Schmidt beat Corey Deuel 13-12 in the final of the ten ball event at Valley Forge today. Deuel, who appeared to be on the brink of victory, was done in by a very unlucky skid of the five ball in the double hill rack.

Though remarkable for his fine play all weekend, John was equally impressive for his comments after the match when he addressed the crowd, calling it one of the luckiest wins of his career and offering some words of consolation to Deuel. I was very impressed by John's classy handling of this most unusual situation."

You had to feel for Corey Deuel that day, and there was some irony in the fact that the beneficiary of his bad fortune was one of his closest friends. In all the years I have watched and attended pro pool events, this was the only time I ever saw a skid in the double hill rack of a final.