the word gay was around way before the closet doors began smashing open,it is not every sensitive persons job to jump up and down or complain when a term or word they dont like is used,grow up,ignore it or go away and dont deal with the offenders any more.some of us are from a time when the context of a word/phrase is what is important that includes lots of other words too.
Worst or gayest pool things ever
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scttybee said:
I beg to disagree. Not that I'm trying to prevent you from using the word, but this is a public forum. It's almost like using a word that refers to a certain group of people to describe something negative and put it on a billboard where many people can see and can't avoid. And then you say, "don't look if you don't like it. But it's already on his/her face."
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crosseyedjoe said:
This is not the kind of thread that I enjoy posting in because it leads to many kinds of resentment but the pool talk is a little slow right now with Walt being gone.
If you see the Hungarian Nut be on the lookout for Walt. I spotted him last night in the Chat Room while we waited for the live video feed from www.theactionreport.com. At least some of us thought it was Walt and we won't say why.
One thing that bothers me is the hypocrisy of individual groups of people.
Some white people are overcome with resentment when they hear a black person calling a white person a "honky" or a "cracker", yet these same individuals can be on occasion heard using the N word, wop or some other word describing a group of people and they can be heard using it in a derogatory manner.
If you think homosexuals don't use the the word "GAY", you are sadly mistaken. Gay has always meant homosexual to me but as I grow older the word has taken on another definition - "effeminate". Whether it is right or wrong that's what it means to me.
Some black people are ready to "hang 'em high", those who would dare to use the N word in public, yet they use it with regularity amongst themselves.
I doubt if any particular ethnic group of people will ever be without their personal prejudices and the battle over the public use of words to describe people and things will rage on while we sit here and admonish each other over unrealized and silly, quasi-resentments.
Before getting caught up in this resentment and holier than thou attitude, I think it far more important to determine the intent of the user of the word.
There is one fellow who on public television ridiculed a group of women as nappy-headed ho's. That to me is a demeaning term and the intent was to ridicule a group of innocent people. For me personally, to say that something is gay doesn't demean an entire group of people, but that's just me.
Some people know that I am white, but when I was a teenager I lived in "the hood", while others of another ethnic persuasion have jokingly accused me of wearing one.
JoeyA (wonders if I should have been offended)
JoeyA said:
But have you heard gays say "gay" for something "ugly, stupid, bad, moronic and such"
JoeyA said:
JoeyA, this phenomenon is quite different. It's an aknowledgment of common status and predicament that comes with the status. It's more of a sympathetic gesture.
As God is my witness, if someone will donate me one of those dil@#$ cues, and if I get to play in the US Open this year, I will play with it during one rack. If I win that match, I will buy a shirt and have the cue printed on it with the caption, "Queer as it may look, I can still play with it." How funny (gay) that will look.
I may get flamed a bit for this, given there are so many Earl fans here, but the most outrageous thing I have seen lately is Earl. Showing up to a match with shooting glasses and two gloves, then getting those finger extensions for jumping! Wow. For a guy that swears about the proper way to play pool (no jump cues and break em hard) he seems to love being in the spotlight surrounded by sponsorships for the most rediculous things available. I don't care if a player wears a glove, but two? Are you playing pool or showing up for batting practice?
So sorry, Earl gets my vote for "word substituted for gay"est thing in pool.
That said, the pink sex toy cue is a very close second. Perhaps Earl would consider that as his break cue?
So sorry, Earl gets my vote for "word substituted for gay"est thing in pool.
That said, the pink sex toy cue is a very close second. Perhaps Earl would consider that as his break cue?
No bet!Jimmy M. said:The gayest? The WPBA, BABY! Sorry, couldn't resist.
10char
The worse thing ever is that stupid rack that has two yellow thumb spots so that you can rack the balls in EXACTLY the same was as you would with a regular rack...woohoo.
PoolSponge said:
Yeah...Mark@Stealth Cues is laughing hard...all the way to the BANK! That pink cue is, believe it or not, a very good seller. Ladies LIKE pink.
Scott Lee
www.poolknowledge.com
Andrew Manning said:
I think you are a bit oversensitive Andrew. I can refer to something as being or seeming "gay" such as my bodybuilding friend who loves to oil himself up and take high contrast black and photos of himself. He's not gay literally but it seems gay. I don't mean he is stupid or less than heterosexual or inferior I mean he is acting gay. A guy wearing a pink glove using a cue that looks like some deviant ass toy will make me think of one thing and one thing only: gay. And that's how I'd describe it to my gay friends in San Francisco (they could only agree after seeing it themselves) as well as my ignorant/racist cohorts in Hamden.
bagofpaper said:
The way you said it is the same way gays use the word among themselves. Which makes me wonder . . . Oh nevermind.
your gaydar is longer than mine!
Andrew Manning said:
"Gay" only means homosexual because that's the slang meaning that people gave it at one time. The word "Gay" itself doesn't mean "Homosexual". Of course, now the dictionary does provide "homosexual" as one of the definitions of the word "gay". The new slang meaning is a younger generation thing, I believe. I hear many teenagers use the word "gay" for something that "sucks" (more slang). Like, "that's so gay!" would equate to what us old 30-something-year-olds might express by saying, "that sucks!". You don't have to like the slang word, but it's definitely out there and in use. If you want to flame the people in this thread who have used it in this context, you might as well go on a crusade around the country because it's being used like this everywhere among young people.
Jimmy M. said:
jimmy,
you really need to rethink this-andrew is 100% correct-, saying something is "gay" and inferring that it's bad or stupid is a reference to homosexual people, in other words, they are saying.... that's gay = that's as bad as being a homosexual.
that's just the facts where it originated and what it means. just becasue high schoolers say it doesn't make it right. it's as bad as saying "he jewed me out of it" if somebody took something from you, its actually very similar, and just as inappropriate.
to put it another way, if ANY presidential nominee used this term they would immediately be forced to withdrawl froom the race because, quite frankly, it shows you have no undersatinding or command of our language, and are just mindlessly repeating what others have said thinking that it must be ok. it's most definitely a word to stay away from if you desire respect from people who are not mindless, just don't know how else to put it.
futher, it's actually very inappropriate for this thread to continue to be in the forum. it should be deleted or the title changed.
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LILJOHN30 said:
LOL, maybe do what monkey does is really fine.
I don't really need to do much of anything. All I said was that young people all over the country are using "gay" in this context as part of their slang language. There is nothing for me to rethink. It's a fact. My opinion over whether it's right or wrong has nothing to do with whether or not the word will continue to be used in that context. For this reason, I haven't even bothered to give my opinion on its political correctness. I stated an observation. However, I'm less uptight than many others and it takes a little more than some 16 year old kid saying, "that's gay", to get me all riled up.
enzo said: