Worst Tourney I Have Ever Played In!

Fast Lenny

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I am usually all positive and a cool character but not today.I went and played an 8 an under at The Sets and it was the worst tournament I have attended ever.So let me get started and vent and put this behind me,if it was just one thing I guess I wouldn't need to but it was 5 or 6 things.

Sign up was supposed to be at 11am but the doors were closed to the place and it was amost an hour before they were opened up,ok so not too big of a deal.Its supposed to be a $30 entry but they decided to go with a green fee which added $15 which some players thought was too high but the show must go on.The place is probably 90 degrees inside and its a sauna,no air conditioning turned on for the players,just an industrial fan 10 feet from a few of the tables so you have to play in a wind tunnel and adjusting shot for wind speed like your doing long range target shooting,lol.

A small thing wass the sun coming in through the door to the outside,no tint or anything on the door so anytime you have to shoot that way prepare to be blinded,the sun is bright here in AZ.Another thing was the chalks there are all worn down,the big banger hole chalks which get all over your ferrule,chalk is cheap atleast provide that for the players.

We are playing the tourney with the big cueball well for the first round anyway,then they switched it to the small cueball in the middle of the 2nd round which now the game has changed and has affected all matches played before,during and after this.The next thing that happens just was the icing on the cake.I get called to play my match and I am playing a set with the guy,halfway through we get told that we arent supposed to be playing eachother and they had the brackets messed up,it wasnt just me and him,there were others too who had this happen to them.

I commend tournament directors and organizers because its not an easy job and I can see why Jay Helfert gets paid well to do it because he does it right.I have played tourneys here in AZ and they all have went smooth,even the rinky dink $5-$10 bar touneys go smooth,Kolbys and Metro is great with no problems.I just think if your going to put on a $500 added tourney with the total entry with side pots being a $100 then do it right or dont waste peoples time, energy and money.I went there first to have a good time and have good competition but grew more aggravated as it went along.

So I am done rambling and dont want to be a nit and if I am being one then tell me,if all these things add up to a bad tourney then it is what it is,I just call it like it like I see it.I hope next time they get it right but I doubt I will be there to see it. :cool:
 
Yeah, Sounds flaked up to me.. hah..

I've been in an event where the tables were all different. Some were fast and some slow.. Rails flaked up, Torn cloth, Big cue balls on some and regular sized ones on others.. Then money was magically vanishing from the prize pool.. and this was put on by a name everyone would know if I said it. But that's over and done with..

Anyway, In my opinion there is some work in running an event but it's not real hard. If you know what your doing anyway.. Obviously these people didn't.. :)
 
That's suck :cool:

I don't play in halls that don't have AC
AZ can get really hot and same is here so I understand you....

The cue ball issue sucks BUT if it was the same for all tables then everyone had to adjust so conditions were equal to all so it's that of a big deal..

Always have a couple of chalk cubes in your case in case the pool hall/bar are out of decent chalk - Problem solved :cool:
p.s. get a chalk holder so everyone knows it's your chalk (and not stolen) when you put it back in the case....

as for the wrong matching, think of it as some free practice you got before the real thing.... :D

Always try to look at the half full glass, being pissed off won't help your game either...
 
Ed Simmons said:
Did you cash?
No I didn't but its not the first time I havent cashed in a tourney and it wont be the last.My reason for posting this isnt because of that otherwise I would be posting a thread once a week,its because of all the things mentioned above.Sometimes things happens but it was too many things and just poorly planned and run is what I am saying.
If I would have cashed it would have been hard earned playing in a sweatbox along with all the bs.I have lost plenty tourneys and have cashed in many also so its not the point of it,the point is its the worst tournament I have played in and I have probably played over a 100 tourneys and never have seen that much bs in all of them combined.
 
No AC in Arizona = No Tourney for me. I don't care what entry or greens fee are. Maybe I am getting old but life is too short to be miserable while trying to compete. Maybe the people involved will take the feed back and use it to improve. Did you mention your concerns to the TD?
 
Fast Lenny said:
No I didn't but its not the first time I havent cashed in a tourney and it wont be the last.My reason for posting this isnt because of that otherwise I would be posting a thread once a week,its because of all the things mentioned above.Sometimes things happens but it was too many things and just poorly planned and run is what I am saying.
If I would have cashed it would have been hard earned playing in a sweatbox along with all the bs.I have lost plenty tourneys and have cashed in many also so its not the point of it,the point is its the worst tournament I have played in and I have probably played over a 100 tourneys and never have seen that much bs in all of them combined.
All i can say is "wow", somebody dropped the ball. Who was running the tourney? I don't believe this is usually the case over there, then again, they don't hold open tourneys, so i really wouldn't know for sure. Unfortunately, they won't allow any 10 (-1)'s to play in the 8's and under. :(

I promise you the Desert Classic Tour events won't have any issues such as this. If they do, it's because Jimmy and I gave it up.....You still going to livestream our State 14.1 Championship next weekend?

Also, talk to Stuckart about your issues over at the tourney. He should be able to fix the problems.

Dennis
 
JCIN said:
No AC in Arizona = No Tourney for me. I don't care what entry or greens fee are.QUOTE]
LOL, same here Justin, i am way too fat and out of shape to put up with 115 degrees and 95% humidity while playing pool in a cramped building filled with people. Not my idea of fun.
 
JCIN said:
No AC in Arizona = No Tourney for me. I don't care what entry or greens fee are. Maybe I am getting old but life is too short to be miserable while trying to compete. Maybe the people involved will take the feed back and use it to improve. Did you mention your concerns to the TD?
Your right Justin the no AC was brutal but I thought it was because we were locked out and the place wasnt opened and perhaps it would eventually get turned on and circulating but it didnt happen.To be honest I didnt say too much,I got apologized to for all the mistakes after playing half a match I shouldnt and then the cueball change not happening on all the tables.At the time I was hot and bothered literally and thought best to just keep my mouth zipped so I didnt go off or hurt someones feelings,I am very respectful of people especially ladies and the elderly.I still actually will walk an old lady across the street and help them load their groceries in their trunk.:p

I do hope they take this critcism and do improve it as I am sure it could be something good,so here is my advice.
1.Have good chalk.
2.Have AC,people dont want to sweat,it affects peoples performance and stamina along with being irritating to shoot when its sticky.
3.If you have computer run brackets know how to use it,if not then use a handwritten chart,people dont like to play matches they shouldn't for nothing.
4.Dont let late entries play in the tourney when matches are already in play regardless if people have a bye and you can replace the bye with someone showing up late.
5.Have green fees that fit the tourney.
6.Do something to block sunglare or have the players play on tables away from the door.
7.Whatever cueball you start with then keep it,dont switch them mid match and expect players to adjust when people warmed up and had played matches or were in progress with the heavier ball.
 
Prince said:
All i can say is "wow", somebody dropped the ball. Who was running the tourney? I don't believe this is usually the case over there, then again, they don't hold open tourneys, so i really wouldn't know for sure. Unfortunately, they won't allow any 10 (-1)'s to play in the 8's and under. :(

I promise you the Desert Classic Tour events won't have any issues such as this. If they do, it's because Jimmy and I gave it up.....You still going to livestream our State 14.1 Championship next weekend?

Also, talk to Stuckart about your issues over at the tourney. He should be able to fix the problems.

Dennis
It was a nice lady named Ebony running the tourney,but nice doesn't allow for that many mistakes and issues with a tournament.I am sure you guys do a great job running your tourneys and I have heard great things about the tour and will be there with my gear to stream it for you guys.I picked up a few things and hope it will improve it over last time,the biggest thing is the internet connection there.PM me and we can talk more about it. :)
 
beav99_4life said:
JCIN said:
No AC in Arizona = No Tourney for me. I don't care what entry or greens fee are.QUOTE]
LOL, same here Justin, i am way too fat and out of shape to put up with 115 degrees and 95% humidity while playing pool in a cramped building filled with people. Not my idea of fun.
Yeah I feel bad for the heavier people but a guy like me who has fast metabolism can lose 5 pounds in a sweatbox,haha.I did really feel bad for a middle aged lady playing in the tourney who had one lung and was having trouble handling the heat in the room and another older guy who was having some problems breathing.
 
Fast Lenny said:
It was a nice lady named Ebony running the tourney,but nice doesn't allow for that many mistakes and issues with a tournament.I am sure you guys do a great job running your tourneys and I have heard great things about the tour and will be there with my gear to stream it for you guys.I picked up a few things and hope it will improve it over last time,the biggest thing is the internet connection there.PM me and we can talk more about it. :)
Yes, she is a very nice lady. Stuckart may be at the next tour stop. I will mention it and he will get with the owner and take care of it i'm sure. I'll pm you my number. Give me a call this week sometime. We have a lot of gear as well that we bring to put videos on our site.

JCIN, from TAR, gave us some great info on a nice camera crane that TAR uses. Talk about sweet! We gonna try to pick one of those up someday.

Dennis
 
Prince said:
Yes, she is a very nice lady. Stuckart may be at the next tour stop. I will mention it and he will get with the owner and take care of it i'm sure. I'll pm you my number. Give me a call this week sometime. We have a lot of gear as well that we bring to put videos on our site.

JCIN, from TAR, gave us some great info on a nice camera crane that TAR uses. Talk about sweet! We gonna try to pick one of those up someday.

Dennis
Yeah that Kessler crane looks really cool and expensive but would be great to get some good angles.I find all of this stuff interesting and enjoy doing it,would love to do it all over Arizona and help pool out and give the fans something to watch,its really a win-win for everyone involved.Slowly but surely I will improve the stream the more I do it,you gotta crawl before you walk and walk before you run. :)
 
SteveH said:
yes. it was HOT an SWEATY in there and i wasnt even playing
Hey Steve it was nice meeting you there and perhaps me and my buddy will stop by that tourney you were talking about,he is a 9 too and doesnt get to play too much besides the open bar tourneys. ;)
 
i played in a tourney once in a peice of sh!t pool hall with wooden table beds and the felt was super worn out so it was almost like playing on the wood, worst tables ever.

Also the AC just was out in my pool hall for like 2 weeks last month. It was freakin awefull. we also had the box fans going.

I feel your pain..

Also always carry your own chalk and talc u never know what kinda dump your gonna end up in.
 
With all of the problems you've described that would have been my first and last visit to that pool room for anything! I know it's a big job to run a tournament, but that one sounds like the organizers didn't have a clue of what they were doing.

Stuff like this is another shot in the arm for pool......

James
 
You are 110% correct Lenny things like this do not happen at Metro, Kolby's, or several other places I have played in. BTW what was the number of Players in the Tournament?


Guess the person who made it to the Hot Seat, was in a real hot seat. No A/C in AZ is the pits.
 
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SteveH said:
yes. it was HOT an SWEATY in there and i wasnt even playing

Sounds like someone forgot to collect the Air Conditions fees:eek:

God I was out in AZ awhile back and it was HOT and I'm from south FL.
I would have left with no air.
 
I don't think criticism will help. One thing on the list maybe, but all the things you listed... They wanted people there to make money, not hold an event for pool players.

Dead giveaway on chalk... I can always tell which rooms cater to players by the chalk.

Maybe after an empty room at the next event they will see pool players should be treated a little better than animals with money.
 
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