Would a 1cm wide crack in a butt below the wrap affect the hit of a cue?

[justinb386]

There is a really nice cue that I am interested in buying, but it has what appears to be about a 1cm wide crack in the butt (below the wrap), and the crack I am guessing around 3 inches long (below the wrap).

Would this affect the hit of a cue?

How much would this type of repair cost from most decent cue repair shops, and would this type of issue greatly devalue an older collectible cue?

Thanks.

EDIT: I do not know what I was thinking when I noted that the crack was 1cm wide. I feel so stupid, lol. I just looked at some measuring tape, and 1cm wide would be an incredibly wide crack. The crack is actually maybe about 1/4th of a cm wide (at the most), and probably a little less then that. Sorry for my stupidity.

 

[victorl]

So many things i could say about having a wide crack in the butt, but I'll leave that alone...
Is the crack in the wood of the cue or in the butt cap? If it's in the butt cap you can have it replaced pretty easily, but if it's in the wood itself you've got a big problem.
I just looked at your post again and 1 cm wide and 3 inches long is a massive crack... If you're lucky hit won't be affected, but replacing an entire section of an old collectible cue (better if you can somehow get the original maker to do it) will result in major devaluation.

 

[justinb386]

Thanks for your reply. 1cm was just a guess (it may not be that big of a crack, but the crack does appear to be into the wood). I have added a picture of the crack. Thanks.

So many things i could say about having a wide crack in the butt, but I'll leave that alone...
Is the crack in the wood of the cue or in the butt cap? If it's in the butt cap you can have it replaced pretty easily, but if it's in the wood itself you've got a big problem.
I just looked at your post again and 1 cm wide and 3 inches long is a massive crack... If you're lucky hit won't be affected, but replacing an entire section of an old collectible cue (better if you can somehow get the original maker to do it) will result in major devaluation.

 

[cuesblues]

After seeing the butt crack, it looks bad.
If the cue is $50, the cost of the butt sleeve repair with inlay work, refinish & re-wrap, would drive the total cost of the cue over what it would be worth in perfect original condition.
You also have to consider that shaft situation, and at the end of the day the cue really isn't very collectible or valuable.
Not a good investment, even if it was just for the butt crack humor.

 

[victorl]

Ok so your butt crack isn't as wide as I thought but it's still a nasty gash. A cue like that with have almost no resale value as is, and for the amount it would cost to fix it you could get a much nicer cue.
At least the seller is being honest with it. If I bought a cue and it showed up with a crack like that I would hulk out and start smashing stuff.

 

[justinb386]

It is a 4 point Huebler, and I thought that they are very collectible (because they are not made any more). So if it did not get repaired, then how much is it worth as is? Thanks.

 

[cuesblues]

The cue repaired would be worth less dough than you would have in it, even if the cracked butt was free.
Just because the cue is a Huebler that doesn't mean it is collectible, and even if it was collectible it doesn't mean the cue is worth anything.
I hate to put a number on it because to me it's worth nothing cracked or repaired.
If someone wanted to buy a repaired Huebler to play with, in perfect condition, maybe $200.
Justin, the cue is worthless to a collector and not worth the cost of repairs to a player.
If it hits OK as is and the shaft is straight and not too skinny, maybe $100 as is.
Repairs would be over $300, not a good deal at any price.

 

[FordSVTCobra]

That's a pretty significant crack and I can't see someone paying a lot for it.

 

[Sloppy Pockets]

It's just a player, right? Can't that just be fitted with an ebony splint glued in place and then cut down, or would that be unacceptable?

 

[justinb386]

You make some very good points, and your points make sense. I always liked Huebler cues, and even the sneaky petes sometimes sell for $200 or more on ebay. The cue is not one of the Vertical logo Hueblers, so I understand that it is not as collectible as they are. The cue is for sell on ebay, and the seller wants $250 for it or best offer. The seller says that all of the white inlays are ivory. It is a very nice cue with the 4 points and veneers. If I were to buy it, then I would just shoot with it as is. It is from a famous custom cue maker that no longer makes cues, so I just assumed that it would have collectors value even in its current condition. I just did not want to offer more then the cue is worth. The auction has 9 offers on it, so I wonder what prices they are offering for the cue. I have added a couple more pictures of what the cue looks like. Thanks for your opinions about the value of the cue.

The cue repaired would be worth less dough than you would have in it, even if the cracked butt was free.
Just because the cue is a Huebler that doesn't mean it is collectible, and even if it was collectible it doesn't mean the cue is worth anything.
I hate to put a number on it because to me it's worth nothing cracked or repaired.
If someone wanted to buy a repaired Huebler to play with, in perfect condition, maybe $200.
Justin, the cue is worthless to a collector and not worth the cost of repairs to a player.
If it hits OK as is and the shaft is straight and not too skinny, maybe $100 as is.
Repairs would be over $300, not a good deal at any price.

 

[cuesblues]

You make some very good points, and your points make sense. I always liked Huebler cues, and ever the sneaky petes sometimes sell for up to $200 or more on ebay. The cue is for sell on ebay, and the seller wants $250 for it or best offer. It is a very nice cue with the 4 points and veneers. If I were to but it, then I know the repair costs would probably be at least $150 (to repair it and refinish the butt). I think that some cue makers can even make the repair job so good that it is like the crack was never there, but I have no idea how much that would cost. So I am guessing that the cue would only have value to a cue maker that could fix the crack themselves and make it look really nice again. It is from a famous custom cue maker that no longer makes cues, so I just assumed that it would have collectors value even in its current condition.

To put it in perspective, I have a very collectible Huebler Custom Cross Cue.
AZ member poolcrazy who is the worlds Huebler afficianato, told me there were only 5-made.
Two full original shafts, butt recently refinished/repaired by Steve Klapp, and I would sell it for $900 shipped.

The cue in the middle:

 

[measureman]

If that was my cue I would rub a little Elmers glue in the crack to possibly prevent it from getting worse and just play with it.
It's a nice looking cue.

 

[cuesblues]

If that was my cue I would rub a little Elmers glue in the crack to possibly prevent it from getting worse and just play with it.
It's a nice looking cue.

First of all, I took that pic in your avatar.
Second of all, stay within your expertise :smile: which consists of making comments about electronic store import cues.

 

[KoolKat9Lives]

First of all, I took that pic in your avatar.
Second of all, stay within your expertise :smile: which consists of making comments about electronic store import cues.

POW!

LMFAO

Fred - you gonna take that lying down brutha?

 

[the420trooper]

On a related note, I have a classic Mustang for sale, with some minor body damage.

This isn't bad enough to affect the way the car drives, right?

 

[Palmerfan]

Cuemaker

There is a really nice cue that I am interested in buying, but it has what appears to be about a 1cm wide crack in the butt (below the wrap), and the crack I am guessing around 3 inches long (below the wrap).

Would this affect the hit of a cue?

How much would this type of repair cost from most decent cue repair shops, and would this type of issue greatly devalue an older collectible cue?

Thanks.

You should post the picture of the crack in the ask the cuemaker thread..they would know best.

Nice cue if it could be a cheap fix.

 

[Palmerfan]

Agree

The cue repaired would be worth less dough than you would have in it, even if the cracked butt was free.
Just because the cue is a Huebler that doesn't mean it is collectible, and even if it was collectible it doesn't mean the cue is worth anything.
I hate to put a number on it because to me it's worth nothing cracked or repaired.
If someone wanted to buy a repaired Huebler to play with, in perfect condition, maybe $200.
Justin, the cue is worthless to a collector and not worth the cost of repairs to a player.
If it hits OK as is and the shaft is straight and not too skinny, maybe $100 as is.
Repairs would be over $300, not a good deal at any price.

I agree..that is a significant crack that may get worse with time, if it sells for over $100 then the seller got a fair price..IMO to buy that cue for $100 and then do $300 to repair and refinish correctly..you can buy a similar or better cue for less $

 

[Palmerfan]

Cue for sale? 2nd from left side

To put it in perspective, I have a very collectible Huebler Custom Cross Cue.
AZ member poolcrazy who is the worlds Huebler afficianato, told me there were only 5-made.
Two full original shafts, butt recently refinished/repaired by Steve Klapp, and I would sell it for $900 shipped.

The cue in the middle:

Who is the cuemaker on the 2nd cue from the left side in your picture and is it for sale?

 

[thewhiffer]

There is a really nice cue that I am interested in buying, but it has what appears to be about a 1cm wide crack in the butt (below the wrap), and the crack I am guessing around 3 inches long (below the wrap).

Would this affect the hit of a cue?

How much would this type of repair cost from most decent cue repair shops, and would this type of issue greatly devalue an older collectible cue?

Thanks.

If your occupation is plumber it would be a great buy and provide an interesting matching accessory effect with sharking possibilities (lol, sorry for the poor humour).

 

[measureman]

First of all, I took that pic in your avatar.
Second of all, stay within your expertise :smile: which consists of making comments about electronic store import cues.

My electronic store cue came with a tracking chip installed. so if it ever gets stolen I can track it down using my cell phone.
The only problem is that the location comes up in Chinese on my phone! :angry: