Would Anybody Blame Me?

Although not intentional, you've assigned yourself the role of "victim". Almost every day, you start a new thread with the common theme of feeling sorry for yourself, and day after day we try to cheer you up, and you might get a little emotional boost from it that keeps you going, but it wears off quickly.

The problem is that it doesn't get you anywhere, as its an endless cycle. You need to snap out of the victim role, and be thankful for what you have. Occasionally, someone tries to give you "tough love", which is probably what you really need, but you ignore it, or it comes out as an insult. Start giving yourself some tough love, and snap yourself out of this funk. When you find yourself feeling sorry for yourself, try to focus on the positive things in life and pool.

Not trying to be insulting here, and it is taken that way, I'm sorry. I do enjoy the other aspects of what you bring to this forum, and you seem like a nice guy.
 
DrCue'sProtege said:
i have thought about this, believe me. perhaps getting down on my knees before i head to my table would benefit me, praying to the Lord for a session of decent rolls. sure cant hurt.

DCP
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DCP,

I'm not sure how to say this without p***ing you off, so I'll just say it.

Frankly, you are going to be stuck at the level of skill you are at now for a LONNNNGGG time, until you change your mental game. You need to be more positive, and quit whining about "bad rolls". There are very, very, very, very few bad rolls in pool.

A lot of top pros play position on the one ball on the break. They see how the one balls responds to their break, and they adjust accordingly. If you are not getting a shot after the break, it because YOU are not breaking correctly. I have seen whole professional matches where there was not a "bad roll" on either side.

I hate being around people who talk about "bad roll" this, and "bad roll" that. Generally, even if they are a really good player, they are the easiest ones to beat if your skill level is similar. Why? Because they "take the heat" when things don't go their way.

Also, if you DO expect and "need" to get an open shot in tournament games every game, then you got a steep hill to climb. Efren wins games all the time when he is hooked after his break.

Why can't you?

Russ
 
Kev said:
Why don't you go play some straight or 8ball for a change?
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Because he enjoys feeling sorry for himself... perhaps more than those two games combined.
 
Kev said:
Why don't you go play some straight or 8ball for a change?
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DCP,
This is an excellent suggestion. Why don't you try playing 8-ball for a while and see if that suits your game better than 9-ball?
 
If your break sucks that bad you need to either break somewhere else, break at a different speed or use different english. It's that simple. Try breaking from the middle or the other side, or use outside english or harder or softer until you start getting decent spreads. Make sure you have a good rack.

I think you have just been defined as insane. You keep doing the same thing over and over and expect different results.

Also if you think you have bad luck you will have bad luck. It's just like if you think you are going to miss a shot you will miss a shot. You see your bad rolls, when you should be seeing what should have been done differently. You don't see your good rolls. It happens to everyone. Take responsibility for what you have control over. Don't think about your bad luck. Think about what you can do to have a better outcome.

Quit your friggin whining. Nobody wants to listen to it.
 
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I agree with the other posters, you are not getting bad rolls you are giving yourself bad rolls because you suck! Accept it, get over it, and give it time, and if your lucky you will learn.
 
I think DCP threads are a very good read for a player who wants to improve. You get great advices and you get to see what sort of attitude you shouldn't have at the pool table. Playing 8ball or 14.1 wouldn't help a great deal I'm afraid. There would still be clusters around in both games and all the reasons in the world to still complain about bad rolls.

The single most important information is missing...how well does he do against the 9ball ghost, i.e. with BIH after the break. That would reveal a lot about his skill level, certainly more than his age, occupation or other unimportant details. Also, record high run at 14.1 would be good to know.

I came close to beating 'the ghost' a few times...that's a huge mental barrier for me. Very often I get 'trashed' with scores like 7:2. Many times I led by 3:1 or 4:1 only to lose next 5 consecutive games. My anxiety got the better of me...the ghost still rules over me...:)
 
I think the problem is what others have said and just get over yourself, suck it up and play...bad rolls go boths ways and they pretty much equal themselves out...in your diagram I see an easy kick and stick safety that would probably have you spearing your cue through the wall if I were to play it on you...LOLz
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Dcp

Many players find 1, only 1 break, and they have success with it, maybe only
15% of the time, but that those times, for some very odd reason, convince them unequivably that THAT IS THE BREAK FOR THEM TO ALWAYS USE FOREVER AND EVER .... Now, does that make sense? No, it doesn't, but many lessor players do it.

Play the odds always! That is the way to maximize your odds!
If you break isn't working, it is because:
1) Hitting the head ball wrong.
2) Wrong english on the cue ball if any. BTW, I NEVER break with 'High Right' english ... lol
3) Breaking from the wrong spot given how the rack is. That's why it is important to learn how to read a rack. You could be making 2-3 balls a break, and the rack could be moved a 1/4" and you won't make anything.
 
Reading this post definately tells me you never took the time to finish "Pleasure of Small Motions".

You need to come to terms where your game is now. Not where you perceive it should be. Until you do this you will never have any enjoyment from this game.
 
I'm Done!

Scottster said:
Reading this post definately tells me you never took the time to finish "Pleasure of Small Motions".

You need to come to terms where your game is now. Not where you perceive it should be. Until you do this you will never have any enjoyment from this game.
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Howdy. I've just started posting here after a long hiatus as I have a little time right now. I replied to a DCP post along with many others trying to help him out. His response was to ignore all the good info he was given and not even to acknowledge the effort others have made to help him. He basically went on to post after his next missed shot, obviously not learning a thing.

There's something not right in that boy's head. I'm done with him!

dan:confused:
 
DrCue'sProtege said:
i decided i was going to end on a high note and stay here until i ran the next rack.
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Ok, here is one of your problems. This is the worst thing to do at the end of a session when you might be tired and frusterated. You stand to frusterate yourself further and by failing to accomplish what you set out to do, it puts the rest of the session in a bad light.

To wind down a session I do two things. I throw 15 balls on the table and just pocket balls. I don't put much effort into it, I don't care how many I run, I just play for the sake of playing.

The other thing I do is I play trick shots.

In short, I don't expect too much from myself at the end of my practice. That way I walk away in a good mood. I've had plenty of good days ruined by fatigue.
 
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Making 5 balls on the break is phenomenal! Despite the circumstances of not having a open shot on the 2, you should be giving yourself a pat on the back for a terrific break.

Follow your own advice and take a week or two off from playing pool. You'll come back energized and ready to try, try again.
 
Good adviceSnap! I like to keep at least 3 different break shots well oiled. I never break and come up dry from the same location twice. For me speed is the key. I'll start off with a fairly slow controlled break. If nuthin drops, next time i up the speed. Still if nothing drops, i'll change the location.

It also pays to carefully ovserve your opponents break. If he's makeing balls and your not. do wut he's doing. Fom the same spot and speed. St.



Snapshot9 said:
Many players find 1, only 1 break, and they have success with it, maybe only
15% of the time, but that those times, for some very odd reason, convince them unequivably that THAT IS THE BREAK FOR THEM TO ALWAYS USE FOREVER AND EVER .... Now, does that make sense? No, it doesn't, but many lessor players do it.

Play the odds always! That is the way to maximize your odds!
If you break isn't working, it is because:
1) Hitting the head ball wrong.
2) Wrong english on the cue ball if any. BTW, I NEVER break with 'High Right' english ... lol
3) Breaking from the wrong spot given how the rack is. That's why it is important to learn how to read a rack. You could be making 2-3 balls a break, and the rack could be moved a 1/4" and you won't make anything.
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DCP,

I'm not sure but it looks like all the instruction in the world won't fix a bad mental perspective. Maybe a few of these will help your perspective.

If you don't like something change it; if you can't change it, change the way you think about it. ~Mary Engelbreit

If you're going through hell, keep going. ~Winston Churchill

The robbed that smiles, steals something from the thief. ~William Shakespeare, Othello

Some luck lies in not getting what you thought you wanted but getting what you have, which once you have got it you may be smart enough to see is what you would have wanted had you known. ~Garrison Keillor


They say a reasonable amount 'o fleas is good fer a dog - keeps him from broodin' over bein' a dog, mebbe. ~Edward Westcott

Men grow tired of sleep, love, singing and dancing sooner than of war. ~Homer, Iliad

If the thunder is not loud, the peasant forgets to cross himself. ~Russian Proverb




Hope these help.

Dave
 
DrCue'sProtege said:
i have thought about this, believe me. perhaps getting down on my knees before i head to my table would benefit me, praying to the Lord for a session of decent rolls. sure cant hurt.

DCP
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NO NO NO...that is your exact problem, DCP...you're looking OUTSIDE for the magic answer to your woes.

AZ doesn't hold the answer, g_d doesn't hold the answer, lessons don't hold the answer, luck from above doesn't hold the answer...none of these holds the answer.

The highest authority is YOUR rational mind. Use that for a once---stop the mysticism, get off.

Jeff Livingston
 
DrCue'sProtege said:
i have thought about this, believe me. perhaps getting down on my knees before i head to my table would benefit me, praying to the Lord for a session of decent rolls. sure cant hurt.

DCP
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WE had a guy come into our shop one time and talk about how good of a player he was. (Which everyone seems to of been). Well he prayed before each shot. I wasn't there when it happend so i'm unsure of if it worked.

I've been experimenting with my break a lot lately. I've done it from the side rail, end rail, head string, straight up, etc. What I have decided to do is watch Johnny Archer and try to immitate him the best I can. Unfortunately I don't have the hard hitting cue control he does so my break can be really really good or really really bad.
 
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