Would both cues plays the same ? (Part 2)

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fish2

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This time its 2 cues made by the same cue maker, insert your favorite cue maker here known for the HIT rather than the intricate inlays.

Cue 1 is curly maple forearm, Maple Handle, Curly maple butt sleeve.

Cue 2 is Brazilian Rosewood forearm, Paduak Handle, Brazilian rosewood buttsleeve.

So would these 2 cues play the same ?
 
fish2 said:
This time its 2 cues made by the same cue maker, insert your favorite cue maker here known for the HIT rather than the intricate inlays.

Cue 1 is curly maple forearm, Maple Handle, Curly maple butt sleeve.

Cue 2 is Brazilian Rosewood forearm, Paduak Handle, Brazilian rosewood buttsleeve.

So would these 2 cues play the same ?
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IMO, it would depend on the the characteristics of the specific pieces of wood used AND if they were cored. IF they were cored knowing something about the coring wood (laminated maple. for example) and method would be helpful. IF the wood on both cues were of equal excellent overall quality, I'd go with the Braz myself.
 
jazznpool said:
IMO, it would depend on the the characteristics of the specific pieces of wood used AND if they were cored. IF they were cored knowing something about the coring wood (laminated maple. for example) and method would be helpful. IF the wood on both cues were of equal excellent overall quality, I'd go with the Braz myself.
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For now and future reference, there is absolutely NO circumstances under which
it is possible to guarantee two cues will 'hit' exactly the same or be perceived
as hitting the same by you.

That being said - IMHO - most cuemakers cues do seem to have a similar 'feel'.
Though, there can always be variations - sometimes drastic variations.

HTH
Dale
 
I think we need to define some terms here. What does "play the same" really mean?

Looking at a hardness scale, it`s pretty obvious that these are very different woods inm respect to hardness and weight.

So if you make a A-joint cue based on your specs, the rosewood cue would be heavier.
But Dale is right. If you core both cues, it would be, to a bigger extent an cosmetic difference.
 
No two cues will play exactly alike.

No two Stradavarius play exactly alike.

Brazilian rosewood and also Gabon Ebony points in maple front are The Mercedes of cue woods, IMO.

Purpleheart cores can alter the bad characteristics of many woods used for their looks, not their playability.
 
pdcue said:
For now and future reference, there is absolutely NO circumstances under which
it is possible to guarantee two cues will 'hit' exactly the same or be perceived
as hitting the same by you.

That being said - IMHO - most cuemakers cues do seem to have a similar 'feel'.
Though, there can always be variations - sometimes drastic variations.

HTH
Dale
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Of course Dale and besides tip and ferrule that would mostly reflect their cue architecture and assembly methods. I just responded to the hypothetical question by mentioning a few other variables. For me most of these the best wood equals the best cue questions are ridiculous and have been presented lots of times on AZB. There is much more that goes into an excellent playing cue. The other issue is there is little consensus on what a good playing cue is. What might be good for you is not good for me and vice versa! We won't get into the skill level of the person judging the playing characteristics of a cue.
 
I believe there would be a significant difference in the hit/feel of those two examples. If a really experienced maker was purposefully trying to make them hit the same, the difference might be small, but still discernible.
 
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I do not think they would play the same. If the forearm and handle were cored with a larger diameter core of the same wood in both cues they might play very close to the same. But will not play the same.

I knew a cuemaker who claimed all his cues hit "exactly the same". I did not believe it then and do not believe it now.
 
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