Would this upset you?

Would this scenario upset you?

  • Yes

    Votes: 25 58.1%
  • No

    Votes: 18 41.9%

  • Total voters
    43

railfirst

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Would it upset you if...
You were at a tournament, you made the long ride with another player, you got to the pool hall at the specified time for practice to start before the tournament started, you and the other player were practicing on a table for the hour before hand provided for warming up...
when you were asked to get off the table so that 2 bangers who were not playing in the tournament could play 14.1 even though there was a whole other half of the pool hall filled with vacant bar boxes?

If a room decides to host a tournament shouldnt they respect the players that choose to come to their pool hall even if its an hour and a half drive by living up to their obligations that they have with the tour?


Ben
 
Way I see it, their tables...their decision. But then you can decide not to play in a tournament. What goes around comes around. Did the 14-1 players say why they needed that particular table?
 
pwd72s said:
Way I see it, their tables...their decision. But then you can decide not to play in a tournament. What goes around comes around. Did the 14-1 players say why they needed that particular table?
yes the room is getting greens fees from each player at the tournament.
Also its a little too late to decide you dont want to play in the tournament after you have driven an hour and a half there.


Ben
 
railfirst said:
yes the room is getting greens fees from each player at the tournament.
Also its a little too late to decide you dont want to play in the tournament after you have driven an hour and a half there.


Ben

if you're paying table time for your practice i don't think you should have had to give up the table. regulars or not that's just not right. your money's just as green as theirs.

i would have left right then and there. hour and a half or if they don't want my business (money) i'm not going to go out of my way to give it to them
 
Ben

I wouldn't complain...I don't remember too many times when I had the opportunity to practice for an hour before a tournament...

Come to think of it...I don't remember ever wanting to practice an hour before a tournament...hey I need to conserve the energy lol...

How long it takes to get to the tournament site is not a factor...most players are probably traveling...I say give up the table for other tournament players...you've had enough practice time...

As far as the owner(?) asking you to stop to allow non-tournament players on...sounds a bit strange but it's his/her room and you go by those rules.

You don't tell exactly what are "their obligations that they have with the tour."

You don't have much of a case...and my advice is have the confidence that you can arrive at a tournament with one minute before start time...have your name called for a match...and start playing your best...

Good luck...

Mike
 
I don't know any "Bangers" that play 14.1

but that's beside the point.. anyone wanting to play on a table I am paying for had better be challenging me to a match..
 
softshot said:
I don't know any "Bangers" that play 14.1

but that's beside the point.. anyone wanting to play on a table I am paying for had better be challenging me to a match..

if u saw the two guys that were playing, u'd say "banger". it was interesting that after railfirst and the other guy warming up on that table were kicked off, none of the other tourney players were asked to stop for the next 20 minutes or so until the tourney started. and the room owner was kind of dick about it. if that room were close to home for me that incident would have been enough for me not to go back there. btw the doors opened at 11am for tourney players and there was suppose to be free warm up time until the beginning of play.

brian
 
I blow the joint up. That'll teach'em.

Due to probation and a couple of restraining orders, I must adjust this statement and say that it was a joke. "ONLY JOKING."
 
If it was before a tourney that was important to me (which it would have to be to drive that far) I wouldnt get upset at all, I dont think that I would let myself do that.

I want to keep my head straight before someting like that. They gave up your table, I disagree with the owner doing that but it happened you have no control over it, only control how your react to it. Getting mad not only screws your head up and can cripple your focus it also gives you that built in excuse should you not play well.... therefore making you GO ON TILT!!

I just stay calm, try to find another table or ask the owner to open up some bar boxes... as he did promise free warm up time.
 
I'd refuse and keep practising since I've already paid my greens fees.

Why that table in particular? Don't they need it for the tournament anyway?
 
One of the places I go some weeks to play Tournaments has FREE POOL until 7:00 pm, after that they RENT some of the 4 x 5’s, x 9 x 0 to paying customers and keep some of the “big tables” for the tournament.

If you are warming up on one of the big table they decide to rent to someone you are ask to get off the table.

Most of the tournament player have no problem with their policy, as the house has a 200% pay back to the Tournament Players.
 
Sweet Marissa said:
I'd refuse and keep practising since I've already paid my greens fees.

Why that table in particular? Don't they need it for the tournament anyway?

it was table #1 right up front. it turned out to be the only 9 footer not used in the tourney, but if just 2 more guys had showed up to play they would have needed that table as well. would have been interesting to see how the room owner handled that...

brian
 
Sounds like you were pretty upset and probably didn't play well in the tournament because of your emotional let down at the practice tables.

Sorry for your loss.

IMO I would have just moved to another practice table and continued. Where I play the tournament tables are always open for practice during a specified time.

If players (not in the tournament and are paying customers) are playing on one of the practice tables, they own that table until tournament time.
But, once the tournament starts, they know to quit playing.

A pool hall is there to make money. A tournament helps get the players in the door and hopefully support the hall by purchasing food and drink so that the owner can provide the Added $$ to the tournament and also not lose a huge amount of revenue from customers that would normally be paying for table time.

If the owner could not afford the Added $$$ and the players were not happy paying the 'green fees' there wouldn't be a tournament.
 
Maybe there's something I'm missing but I don't think the pool hall really did anything wrong, not much anyway. Did they promise a certain number of tables for free practice?

The only thing they could have done better (as I understand the situation) is to ask you when you first checked out the balls if you'd be playing in the tournament, and then put you on one of the tournament tables.

At the tournaments I play at, usually free practice just means they give free practice on however many tables they'll be using for the tournament. So even if you had been practicing on one of the tournament tables, you might have had someone jumping in for "next game" anyway.

Also don't forget that pool needs bangers too! :)
 
Cuebacca said:
Maybe there's something I'm missing but I don't think the pool hall really did anything wrong, not much anyway. Did they promise a certain number of tables for free practice?

The only thing they could have done better (as I understand the situation) is to ask you when you first checked out the balls if you'd be playing in the tournament, and then put you on one of the tournament tables.

At the tournaments I play at, usually free practice just means they give free practice on however many tables they'll be using for the tournament. So even if you had been practicing on one of the tournament tables, you might have had someone jumping in for "next game" anyway.

Also don't forget that pool needs bangers too! :)

he said he was paying green fees for practice. kicking him off is like saying that the other guys money is better than his
 
It was my tour stop and I was the TD. What happened is that I was using all 11 - 9 footers available if needed. After I had all sign ups, I gave up table #1 back to the room when I realized I didn't need it, leaving me with the 10 tables of the 11. There was 2 frequents there waiting to see if any tables opened up, I noticed them waiting since 11am, I went over and spoke to them and had a friendly conversation, I told them I most likely will have a table for them but had to wait until I had all sign ups, they didn't know there was a tour stop there that day and just came to play some friendly 14.1. Ben was practicing on the table #1, when it got close to the players meeting time I went over to the owner and gave him back table #1 for the 2 gentlemen waiting. It was just a little before noon before I gave up the table, I anticipated having the players meeting 2 minutes after I gave up the table, noon would have ended practice time anyhow, but I had a unanticipated 15 minute delay to the players meeting to bring that to about 12:15 instead of noon, I had 2 local players phone into the owner at that moment to say they were on their way, I agreed to wait those few extra minutes, and they did show when they said they were going to about 12:15, 12:35 or so we ran the draw and we were on our way.

I was simply practicing common coutersy to the room and the 2 local players waiting to see if there was going to be a 9 footer. I did not need that table and I knew it. Table #1 was out of the way of the tournament more than any other table because the billiard table is next to it. Nothing to argue about here seems to me.

Kevin Vidal
 
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