So with new rules that you need to be a memeber of it's affiliate organizatios, you will not be ranked nor included in it's future tournaments. That means many Philippine players will not be ranked as they are not members of BSCP, is that correct? Orcollo is out of the rankings for 2009. Mostly Europeans are in the top ten.
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Timmmmmmberrrrrrrrrr!!!!!
During the last day of Marcos in the Philippines (the afternoon before he sought asylum in Hawaii), he threatened the millions of "people power" protesters in the streets that he was going to jail them all if they don't go home.
This will be an interesting struggle.
During the last day of Marcos in the Philippines (the afternoon before he sought asylum in Hawaii), he threatened the millions of "people power" protesters in the streets that he was going to jail them all if they don't go home.
This will be an interesting struggle.
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In carom, this is an absolutely standard arrangement. Players belong to national organizations, those belong to continental confederations, and those belong to the UMB. In international events, players represent their countries. Entries are often handled through the federation/confederation, and the players must be members in good standing of a federation.parvus1202 said:
I wonder how this works now in the US. To which organization must a player belong? So far as I know, the BCA no longer has player-members and the UPA is no longer recognized as an official pool organization (IIRC).
Nostroke said:
So these organizations (WPA & BSCP, etc) think they can survive without the support of the players who play pool?
I hope all the professional players in the world would wake-up and see that they don't need this organizations to play pool and make a living.
Glad that the Filipino Pros already did.
Nostroke said:
I wish they'd force the hand to pay ALL the players from last months WTBC. Now that would be something I can respect.
I am puzzling over something and not being to well informed about the politics in the US pool scene, maybe someone can answer this.
To play in the US Open for example, you will have to be a member of an association/federation which in turn is a member of the WPA.
According to the WPA website, the member for North America and Canada is the BCA.
So does that mean that if you are not a paid up member of the BCA, you will not be permitted to play in the US Open?
I guess that will cut the fields down!!
To play in the US Open for example, you will have to be a member of an association/federation which in turn is a member of the WPA.
According to the WPA website, the member for North America and Canada is the BCA.
So does that mean that if you are not a paid up member of the BCA, you will not be permitted to play in the US Open?
I guess that will cut the fields down!!
Peter@CEP said:
If the event is a WPA sanctioned event then you will have to be a player member of a WPA subordinate organizaton - this means that USA and Canada players would need to be BCA members - $25 per year. That is at least how I see it.
Same difference on all the microtours. I played in one of Shannon Daulton's events while I was home and had to pay the yearly dues even though I didn't plan to play in any more events all year.
I rather doubt that people intent on playing in the US Open are going to skip it because of a $25 membership fee. However if it's a problem then Barry will probably forgo WPA sanctioning.
Is the US Open WPA sanctioned anyway?
Still makes me wonder what this sanctioning is all about when players are still waiting to get paid from the most recent sanctioned event.
Now they want to charge membership fees after all that has happened? Poolplayers must really be desperate and stupid.
There's wisdom in JBCases "Professional" category which sort of gives pool a clean slate. But why under an amateur organistion? There was quite a span of time to have straightened-up the mess but this Word Org and affiliates chose to use "muscle" which, dangerously for them, brought realization to the Pool World that the muscles are without substance. Utterly worthless where it's needed most, keeping its affiliates straight.
They need to clean-up their house before they do the neighborhood.
Now they want to charge membership fees after all that has happened? Poolplayers must really be desperate and stupid.
There's wisdom in JBCases "Professional" category which sort of gives pool a clean slate. But why under an amateur organistion? There was quite a span of time to have straightened-up the mess but this Word Org and affiliates chose to use "muscle" which, dangerously for them, brought realization to the Pool World that the muscles are without substance. Utterly worthless where it's needed most, keeping its affiliates straight.
They need to clean-up their house before they do the neighborhood.
I think that this is a normal thing for the WPA to require. In fact I thought it was that way already.
However in light of the fact that the WPA is apparently powerless or unwilling to insure that a tournament it sanctions and lends credibility to is capable of paying the players I wonder what it really matters.
What tournaments are there that really matter as far as the WPA is concerned? The 8 and 9 ball World Championships obviously and I suppose also the 10 ball and the 14.1.
I think if the world's professional players were to put their collective foot down then they could insure that they are not held to the dictates and whims of corrupt national federations when it comes to WPA events.
But if they don't then I suppose they will either acquiese or refuse to play.
Will the Europeans stand with their Filipino comrades or not? The Americans really have nothing to add as they never know which organization they "belong" to and who is going to allocate slots and pick whom to go to WPA events.
May you live in interesting times indeed.
However in light of the fact that the WPA is apparently powerless or unwilling to insure that a tournament it sanctions and lends credibility to is capable of paying the players I wonder what it really matters.
What tournaments are there that really matter as far as the WPA is concerned? The 8 and 9 ball World Championships obviously and I suppose also the 10 ball and the 14.1.
I think if the world's professional players were to put their collective foot down then they could insure that they are not held to the dictates and whims of corrupt national federations when it comes to WPA events.
But if they don't then I suppose they will either acquiese or refuse to play.
Will the Europeans stand with their Filipino comrades or not? The Americans really have nothing to add as they never know which organization they "belong" to and who is going to allocate slots and pick whom to go to WPA events.
May you live in interesting times indeed.
Who created WPA? Was this created by different member countries? To me some countries in Europe, Taiwan, Japan, Philippines and the USA have the most serious palyers. They should create a world organization and should vote among them a president and election of new officials every 3 years. Like FIDE, chess is the most boring to watch on TV, but very successful.
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Peter@CEP said:
I used to think it could happen. And I do live in a dream world most of the time - even without drugs!
But after the IPT and now this I don't think it will ever be possible. Pool players like to play pool not organize it. Organizers like to control people and bend them to their will.
jay helfert said:
BINGO - ---
Yes, this is true. But this is also where player and organizer have to come together and come up with a happy medium.JB Cases said: