WPA Rules about Cue Extensions..

strokerace

strokerace

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I know there is no Length problems..and the weight of the Cue
not to exceed 25oz..but what if you wanted to play with an
extension all the time..i play very well with my cue i balanced to
the extension..it comes in at 28.5oz together but my Cue is only
18.5oz....do you think i could play in a tournament with it attached without issues????..thanks..SA
 
strokerace said:
I know there is no Length problems..and the weight of the Cue
not to exceed 25oz..but what if you wanted to play with an
extension all the time..i play very well with my cue i balanced to
the extension..it comes in at 28.5oz together but my Cue is only
18.5oz....do you think i could play in a tournament with it attached without issues????..thanks..SA
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Hey Jay..ring in on this..you been around and i am sure you Know..
have you ever seen anyone do this..i mean i can make a long ass
bridge..even off the rails..and the butt of the extension sets my
stroke hand perfect and the balance is of such that it does not
feel that heavy..works great on the big greens..SA
 
I don't know of any rules restricting the length of your cue. Bob Jewett would know more about this than me.
 
jay helfert said:
I don't know of any rules restricting the length of your cue. Bob Jewett would know more about this than me.
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Jay, I think the issue is the weight. If the limit is 25 oz. and his cue is within the limit but is over the limit with the extension, can he use the extension? I'd be curious to know if you can use the extension at all, much less all the time. And I wonder if it depends on whether it is screwed on (i.e. fixed to the cue) or whether it is a slip on type deal like the Hager. If it's screwed on you could certainly make the case that it is part of a three piece cue and thus must be under 25 oz.

Interesting question though, because if you cannot use the extension at all if it makes the weight of the cue over 25 oz., then wouldn't the weight of a bridge have to be included when it is being used? Of course, a bridge is never attached to a cue in any fashion. It really is a separate device.

I wonder if we will get a definitive answer on this one. I'm only guessing but I would say that if you are using the cue on a normal shot as designed for it's normal function (i.e. on a shot not requiring a bridge) then the extension would have to be included in the weight of the cue, making it illegal. But this is just a guess.
 
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FYI Earl Strickland played the entire Seminole Mizerak Tournament with his cue extension on all the time.
 
DogsPlayingPool said:
Jay, I think the issue is the weight. If the limit is 25 oz. and his cue is within the limit but is over the limit with the extension, can he use the extension? I'd be curious to know if you can use the extension at all, much less all the time. And I wonder if it depends on whether it is screwed on (i.e. fixed to the cue) or whether it is a slip on type deal like the Hager. If it's screwed on you could certainly make the case that it is part of a three piece cue and thus must be under 25 oz.

Interesting question though, because if you cannot use the extension at all if it makes the weight of the cue over 25 oz., then wouldn't the weight of a bridge have to be included when it is being used? Of course, a bridge is never attached to a cue in any fashion. It really is a separate device.

I wonder if we will get a definitive answer on this one. I'm only guessing but I would say that if you are using the cue on a normal shot as designed for it's normal function (i.e. on a shot not requiring a bridge) then the extension would have to be included in the weight of the cue, making it illegal. But this is just a guess.
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Mine is a modified Tony Ryan..it slips on..in order to balance it..it had
to weigh in at 28.5oz..since it is a slip on does it break the weight rule??

I could not find anything against it..nor anything allowing it..SA
 
DogsPlayingPool said:
... Interesting question though, because if you cannot use the extension at all if it makes the weight of the cue over 25 oz., then wouldn't the weight of a bridge have to be included when it is being used? Of course, a bridge is never attached to a cue in any fashion. It really is a separate device. ...
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Right, a bridge doesn't add to the weight of the cue when it is stroked, whereas an extension does. So if a 25 oz. limit is enforced, I'd think it would apply to cue + extension, i.e., whatever apparatus is being used to stroke the cue ball.

But this leads me to ask -- what is the purpose of a maximum limit on a cue's weight? Does anyone believe that a 30 oz. cue would give someone an advantage, like on the break? The authorities must perceive some need to limit it to 25 oz., but why?
 
So let me ask those in the know. Has anyone ever seen an accurate scale at a tournament to weigh players cues?


Jay you're a long time Tournament Director, have you ever weighed a players cue or know of a tourney that has weighed a players cue to see if it was over 25 oz?
 
AtLarge said:
Right, a bridge doesn't add to the weight of the cue when it is stroked, whereas an extension does. So if a 25 oz. limit is enforced, I'd think it would apply to cue + extension, i.e., whatever apparatus is being used to stroke the cue ball.

But this leads me to ask -- what is the purpose of a maximum limit on a cue's weight? Does anyone believe that a 30 oz. cue would give someone an advantage, like on the break? The authorities must perceive some need to limit it to 25 oz., but why?
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I have heard the limit was for Break Cues..not playing cues..could see
an advantage there..but not in actual play..SA
 
The way I interpret the rules, any cue weighing more than 25 oz is illegal.
With or without the extension,maximum cue weight is 25 oz
Hence the demand for lightweight extensions.
 
strokerace said:
I have heard the limit was for Break Cues..not playing cues..could see
an advantage there..but not in actual play..SA
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17. Cue Sticks
Cue Sticks used at WPA competitions should comply with the following
during play at table:

Length of Cue: 40 inches [1.016 m] minimum / No Maximum
Weight of Cue: No minimum / 25 oz. [708.75 gm] maximum
Width of Tip: No minimum / 14mm maximum

http://www.wpa-pool.com/index.asp?content=rules_spec

The cue tip may not be of a material that can scratch or damage the addressed ball. The cue tip on any stick must be composed of a piece of specially processed leather or other fibrous or pliable material that extends the natural line of the shaft end of the cue and contacts the cue ball when the shot is executed..

The ferrule of the cue stick, if of a metal material, may not be more than 1 inch [2.54 cm] in length.

The World Pool Association rules and specifications have been updated for 2010

The BCA Pool league rules are similar but have differences.
Other League rules are very different.

Pool halls use different sets of rules depending on how they want to run their tournament. You'd be surprised how much a $15 entry fee makes the players want to run the show, especially 9 Ball rules.
 
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dr9ball said:
So let me ask those in the know. Has anyone ever seen an accurate scale at a tournament to weigh players cues?


Jay you're a long time Tournament Director, have you ever weighed a players cue or know of a tourney that has weighed a players cue to see if it was over 25 oz?
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I take 1000 gram scales with .1 gram resolution with me.Sometimes I have a standard 5oo gram calibration weight with me also.
In money tournaments here,they impound the winning players cues for inspection.
 
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