WPBA Great Lakes Classic....who's going?

Yeah, I'm surprised that there's such little talk about this event. There's usually a lot more being said about a WPBA event.


PJ
 
Pjadedd said:
Yeah, I'm surprised that there's such little talk about this event. There's usually a lot more being said about a WPBA event.


PJ
I think their losing a lot of their fan base because of the Final 16 Single Elm. I haven't talked to one person (players included) that like it. In fact most think it's an unfair way to pick a winner.Johnnyt
 
I think the system would work (in their theory of getting new faces on tv) if they aired the quarterfinals on television as well. I think there's more of a chance to get fresh faces (and it's more tv). Maybe 1 out of 4 will be a "new television face."


PJ
 
B-Side Results (winners into final 16):
Corr def. Hines 9-1
Hofstatter def. Shaw 9-6
Nelson def. Minerich 9-4
Herndon def. Morris 9-5
White def. Barretta 9-7
Laurance def. Ford 9-6
GY Kim def. Sakai 9-3
K. Fisher def. Kostanian 9-2

Final 16 Draw (a couple rematches):
A. Fisher vs. Herndon
Pan vs. Hofstatter
Villarreal vs. Nelson
Webb vs. K. Fisher
Ellerby vs. Laurance
Lee vs. GY Kim
Thornfeldt vs. Corr
Huang vs. White


PJ
 
Pjadedd said:
B-Side Results (winners into final 16):
Corr def. Hines 9-1
Hofstatter def. Shaw 9-6
Nelson def. Minerich 9-4
Herndon def. Morris 9-5
White def. Barretta 9-7
Laurance def. Ford 9-6
GY Kim def. Sakai 9-3
K. Fisher def. Kostanian 9-2

Final 16 Draw (a couple rematches):
A. Fisher vs. Herndon
Pan vs. Hofstatter
Villarreal vs. Nelson
Webb vs. K. Fisher
Ellerby vs. Laurance
Lee vs. GY Kim
Thornfeldt vs. Corr
Huang vs. White


PJ
Yes I saw it but thanks for posting it.
I'll take A. Fisher-XPAN-Nelson-K. Fisher-Ellerby-Lee-Corr- and White. Johnnyt
 
Lets see if I got this right. Lee beats Ga Young Kim and sends her to the one loss side=1 loss Kim No losses Lee. Kim comes through the 1 loss side and plays Lee again in the single Elm. Kim wins=Lee 1 loss out of tourny Kim 1 loss in finals. Change this crap WPBA. Johnnyt:mad:
 
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Agreed. Semis have two players with no losses, Pan and Thornfeldt and two with one loss, Kim and K. Fisher. It's really screwy.

I think I am right in saying tha Pan Xiao Ting is now 3 and 2 against Allison since joining the WPBA last year. Not bad for a rookie.
 
Yes, Pan is now 3-2 vs. Allison. The score was 8-1 Pan and she missed a ball or two that she had been making earlier in the match, which allowed Allison to get another game or two. For a smaller girl, Pan's break is HUGE. She hits them very hard and squats the cueball in the middle of the table very well. I'd say of all the matches I watched yesterday, her break is right up there with GYKim and Tiffany Nelson. Pan has such a smooth, soft touch to her stroke, even harder-struck balls seem to float gently around the table. She was quite enjoyable to watch and I'm looking forward to seeing her play again today.

Also very impressive yesterday was GYKim. Such a strong game to go with a great smile, I don't know who I'll pull for if they make it to the finals against each other.

I really don't have an opinion of the format except that it makes for great viewing for the spectators. Yesterday, there were a total of 20 matches played and every one was an elimination match. Yes, there were a few ugly matches, but there were a few that went hill-hill.

Looking forward to the semi's and finals today.
 
GADawg said:
I think I am right in saying tha Pan Xiao Ting is now 3 and 2 against Allison since joining the WPBA last year. Not bad for a rookie.

Right and wrong. She is 3-2, but she's not a rookie anymore!

But seriously, it's difficult not to consider the possiblility that we are seeing the emergence of a WPBA superstar in Pan. She missed winning the title in North Carolina by a single rack, and regardless of today's results, she will, by my calculations, leave Michigan City as the #4 ranked played on the WPBA tour.

Pan beat Allison Fisher 9 - 4. The last time I can remember anyone other than Corr winning this decisively over Allison is when Tiffany Nelson beat Allison 9 - 4 in the 2000 WPBA Baltimore Classic.

Of course, who really knows what the future will bring. I hope Pan and Thornfeldt, both undefeated to this point, meet in the finals today.
 
sjm said:
Right and wrong. She is 3-2, but she's not a rookie anymore!

But seriously, it's difficult not to consider the possiblility that we are seeing the emergence of a WPBA superstar in Pan. She missed winning the title in North Carolina by a single rack, and regardless of today's results, she will, by my calculations, leave Michigan City as the #4 ranked played on the WPBA tour.

Pan beat Allison Fisher 9 - 4. The last time I can remember anyone other than Corr winning this decisively over Allison is when Tiffany Nelson beat Allison 9 - 4 in the 2000 WPBA Baltimore Classic.

Of course, who really knows what the future will bring. I hope Pan and Thornfeldt, both undefeated to this point, meet in the finals today.

Next time i see you, you better keep your distance.:)
 
Nostroke said:
Next time i see you, you better keep your distance.:)

This terrible format continues to randomize the results. Hsin Huang beats Kim White, and draws her for a second straight time and loses. Same thing with Ga Young kim and Jeanette Lee. Something needs to be done about these repeat matches that completely strip the original winner of any advantage. The blind draw could easily be modified to eliminate this possibility.

I wish all the players good luck, but two of the last four are undefeated and they are the ones that have played the best pool, despite the fact that they have gained no advantage over the other two for having done so.

If you want to defend this format to me, I'll listen, but I think it stinks, and I can honestly say that I have yet to meet anyone that has claimed to like it.
 
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Does anyone know if they are getting more or less fans at the tournaments since they changed formats? Thank you. Johnnyt
 
Johnnyt said:
Does anyone know if they are getting more or less fans at the tournaments since they changed formats? Thank you. Johnnyt

Honestly, though you and I see eye to eye on this, I don't think many fans care about the format. The only thing that bothers me is that the format is wreaking havoc upon the players.

Don't worry for the WPBA. The women's pro pool product is a superior one, and that's why the WPBA has grown continuously for thirty years and is sure to continue to grow.
 
sjm said:
This terrible format continues to randomize the results. Hsin Huang beats Kim White, and draws her for a second straight time and loses. Same thing with Ga Young kim and Jeanette Lee. Something needs to be done about these repeat matches that completely strip the original winner of any advantage. The blind draw could easily be modified to eliminate this possibility.

I wish all the players good luck, but two of the last four are undefeated and they are the ones that have played the best pool, despite the fact that they have gained no advantage over the other do for having done so.

If you want to defend this format to me, I'll listen, but I think it stinks, and I can honestly say that I have yet to meet anyone that has claimed to like it.

No SJM, Im not defending the format, i just want MIss KIm in the finals but you have your wish. GYK played bad, caeless etc. and its Pan Vs Thornfeldt starting soon. Based on recent (this tournament) form, it might be 7-2 or somewehre there about with XTP getting her first win. I just saw her on the way to the arena and she looks comfortable and beautiful as usual, despite her less than faulous hairstyle.
 
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sjm said:
Honestly, though you and I see eye to eye on this, I don't think many fans care about the format. The only thing that bothers me is that the format is wreaking havoc upon the players.

Don't worry for the WPBA. The women's pro pool product is a superior one, and that's why the WPBA has grown continuously for thirty years and is sure to continue to grow.

I agree with you here also. The few players I've talked to were against it and they weren't in the top ten either.I'm sure smoke is coming out of Jeanette's ears about now for getting knocked out again by someone with one loss. Johnnyt
 
Nostroke said:
Based on recent (this tournament) form, it might be 7-2 or somewehre there about with XTP getting her first win.

Nice prediction, sir. Pan wins it 7-2! I'll never doubt you again.
 
A couple of pics from after the finals.....
 

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