wrap seams

What are you using for glue instead of contact Joey?

Top of The Line Glue for me. Really expensive and 0 VOC .
Happy to get rid of another chemical in the shop.
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For reals?

Yes.
It doesn't work like contact cement but it sure grabs sticks leather to wood pretty darn well.
Once, I pulled leather off a purpleheart handle. It sheared some of the purpleheart. I kid you not.
There's easier ways to remove white glued leather when it's too tough.

Mike Webb turned me into it.
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Yes.
It doesn't work like contact cement but it sure grabs sticks leather to wood pretty darn well.
Once, I pulled leather off a purpleheart handle. It sheared some of the purpleheart. I kid you not.
There's easier ways to remove white glued leather when it's too tough.

Mike Webb turned me into it.
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I guess il try it out :)
Do you water it down?
 
I guess il try it out :)
Do you water it down?

You can water it down and make the drying process slower.
Try cutting some leather and stick em to a watered down glue.
Make sure you weigh the mix before and after.
1/3 water is as thin as you'd want as it will "flash" in about 20 minutes in my need of the woods . That varies due to air dryness of course.
I've not needed to water it down anymore .
It might take longer to do a wrap using white glue but it's worth it for me.

The bottle goes bad faster than contact cement. But, they're cheap and easy to replace. California has banned contact cement gel at Home Depot due to wuttever reasons.:eek: I don't miss them at all . Not the smell and the mess.
 
The problem I have found with white glue is the water content effects the finish on some leathers, as well it has a tendency to soak into the leather making it stretchy. this is sometimes good and sometimes not so good. Contact cement is solvent based and doesn't soak into the leather nearly as much.
 
The only wrap's which can be done that way are smooth leather wraps. So I guess if you do only one style of wrap then all the power to you. Telling the OP that you are finishing the entire wrap and not just the seam would have been less misleading, that is why I pointed it out. I understood the question to be asking how to better finish the seam. I did not intend to to start anything, your technique is a legitimate one, just not what I thought was being asked.

That's not exactly true. That particular cue I wanted a smooth shiny Bushka style wrap on, so I finished it in that way. However, hiding a seam, (which was what he wanted info on how to do, not installing a wrap) was hidden by working the leather and heating it up by hand working it together before I ever sanded, and buffed the grain out. (it took some time). That can be done with any leather regardless of grain, tanning process etc... I did not build the cue btw. Just have worked with leather tons...

But his original post said he wanted tips on hiding the seam in a leather wrap and not how to wrap a cue (which apparently he has already been doing a lot of). I just gave how I did mine. Certainly not starting anything though, if you think that, it is being read wrong.:thumbup:
 
leather wrap seams

I bought a 'Leather Wrap Fixture' from "Unique Products" and, though it was expensive ($400.00), it makes leather wraps foolproof when cutting the seam. More than paid for itself in 4 months.

CueWorks, etc.
 
One "secret" I'll share: It is a good idea to gain a working knowledge in how to use a flexible water-based urethane spray to seal the backside (with a few thin coats) well before a leather installation to prevent the wicking of moisture (solvent or water) from penetrating deeply into the surface of a wrap. Mositure sometimes alters the original color and finish on a leather wrap in ways that are not predictable or wanted.

Martin
 
The problem I have found with white glue is the water content effects the finish on some leathers, as well it has a tendency to soak into the leather making it stretchy. this is sometimes good and sometimes not so good. Contact cement is solvent based and doesn't soak into the leather nearly as much.

I' ve been using Elmer's glue for about seven years and never had problems effecting the finish on any leather but if you water it down too much it will make the softer leather a bit more stretchy, after a while you take into consideration the individual piece of leather.
The white glue gives you a larger window to play with the leather.


Mario
 
One "secret" I'll share: It is a good idea to gain a working knowledge in how to use a flexible water-based urethane spray to seal the backside (with a few thin coats) well before a leather installation to prevent the wicking of moisture (solvent or water) from penetrating deeply into the surface of a wrap. Mositure sometimes alters the original color and finish on a leather wrap in ways that are not predictable or wanted.

Martin

Thank you for that bit of knowledge, very much appreciated.
 
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