Wrapless BK2 $8 a spot or $14 for 2 spots

[classiccues]

You are clearly missing the point.. Look at my post again. read it real slow so you can take it all in.

Do the research, you will see that I am right

I did the research and you are in auctions with NO DATE and NO link. Which you just stated "every raffle you have been in.. bla.. bla bla.." I took it all in, you're a sore loser. The guy did NOTHING wrong.

There is a simple solution, that is no one should allow you in any raffle. You enter alot of the raffles, very few have links to the mega or powerball sites. NONE have an initial date, because NO ONE knows when that final payment will be made. I can already tell you, with 100% certainty that if there was an auction and YOU had the winning number after the last payment was made, and the person skipped that day and said it would be on the following auction, you would cry foul and state every auction is predicated on the auction following last payment. No doubt in my mind, or anyone elses that has read this and all pertaining threads.

JV

 

[BPG24]

I did the research and you are in auctions with NO DATE and NO link. Which you just stated "every raffle you have been in.. bla.. bla bla.." I took it all in, you're a sore loser. The guy did NOTHING wrong.

JV

Look moron, this has nothing to do with losing. Every raffle that I can remember being in gave a date when the drawing would be before they popped up and sad "we have a winner"

You disregarded what is way more important than that. He himself used different sites on his other raffles. He himself gave dates on his other raffles. Just like everyone else has done.

Please learn to read or go away, you are really annoying

 

[rossaroni]

I appreciate the way you went about this post. Thank you

I am sure he does wish that he would have done what was right. However he had many chances to correct it before we got where we are now and he chose not to. That is on him, and it is too bad that we will all suffer.

Also, i can't feel sorry for him needing money when he admits in another one of his raffles that his gambling problem is why he is selling it to begin with.

Thank you!

I guess I just don't see what doing right was. Just because he forgot to mention something doesn't mean that he was wrong. I just don't see what he did wrong. Not perfect-yes, but wrong-no. I just don't see why he would have to refund money back.
BTW, for once, him getting screwed had nothing to do with a gambling problem!:embarrassed2:
I do also appreciate your responce to me and I think you realize that I don't like conflict and would rather pull out my hair then argue on the internet. I wish the best to both of you, but the best now, is still probably going to still be bad.:frown:

 

[BPG24]

Thank you!

I guess I just don't see what doing right was. Just because he forgot to mention something doesn't mean that he was wrong. I just don't see what he did wrong. Not perfect-yes, but wrong-no. I just don't see why he would have to refund money back.
BTW, for once, him getting screwed had nothing to do with a gambling problem!:embarrassed2:
I do also appreciate your responce to me and I think you realize that I don't like conflict and would rather pull out my hair then argue on the internet. I wish the best to both of you, but the best now, is still probably going to still be bad.:frown:

I wasn't after a refund for everyone at first. Just some notice as to when the drawing would be held. We deserve that much since we sent our money when asked.

He could have simply picked a date and we all gone by that but instead he chose not to correct his mistake.

 

[rossaroni]

I wasn't after a refund for everyone at first. Just some notice as to when the drawing would be held. We deserve that much since we sent our money when asked.

He could have simply picked a date and we all gone by that but instead he chose not to correct his mistake.

I saw where you asked for the date, but he wasn't on the computer and didn't get back to you. However, the raffle was full and paid for. I am still confused to how he would correct a 'mistake' and not make someone feel like they were screwed. He maybe should have taken a $14 loss and gave you your money back, so this could end. Him paying everyone their money back and also giving The Kurly One the cue would be ridiculous.

 

[classiccues]

Look moron, this has nothing to do with losing. Every raffle that I can remember being in gave a date when the drawing would be before they popped up and sad "we have a winner"

You disregarded what is way more important than that. He himself used different sites on his other raffles. He himself gave dates on his other raffles. Just like everyone else has done.

Please learn to read or go away, you are really annoying

NONE of the auctions you signed in for had dates till the auction was fully paid. MOST don't have links to the site the number is drawn off of. MOST of them went off on the powerball or mega FOLLOWING the time the auction was paid. NONE OF WHICH YOU COMPLAINED ON. You know damn well how the auctioning system works. You know damn well you're wrong. His other auctions don't mean squat, you were in on THIS auction. In my life I have never seen a more pompous idiot, ever, EVER, EVER. Anyone reading this thread that has an auction you are in, should send you the money back IMMEDIATELY.

JV

 

[rossaroni]

We deserve that much since we sent our money when asked.

People don't always pay when asked. I would have won two raffles, but didn't, because 1 or 2 people didn't pay in a decent ammount of time. So, that leaves me at about 0-15 in the raffles!:frown: It sucked, but I can't ask for my money back.

 

[classiccues]

I saw where you asked for the date, but he wasn't on the computer and didn't get back to you. However, the raffle was full and paid for. I am still confused to how he would correct a 'mistake' and not make someone feel like they were screwed. He maybe should have taken a $14 loss and gave you your money back, so this could end. Him paying everyone their money back and also giving The Kurly One the cue would be ridiculous.

Thats the best part, pimp says the drawing following payment. Doesn't matter if he gives notice. He got the last payment in and true to his word it was the FOLLOWING auction. This guy is more trouble than he is worth.

JV

 

[BPG24]

I saw where you asked for the date, but he wasn't on the computer and didn't get back to you. However, the raffle was full and paid for. I am still confused to how he would correct a 'mistake' and not make someone feel like they were screwed. He maybe should have taken a $14 loss and gave you your money back, so this could end. Him paying everyone their money back and also giving The Kurly One the cue would be ridiculous.

Ross,

None of us could have known that the raffle was all paid for, he didn't mark it that way until after he picked a winner. So there is no way to know which drawing he was using. he has edited the first post in the thread, i think that may be what is throwing some of you guys off. They weren't all marked paid when he picked the winner.

I never said he should send the stick and refund the money. Not sure where you came up with that

 

[claymont]

There's no intent to defraud here, 'at the most' poor communication of the procedure and timing. Looks to me like way too much ego and testosterone have flowed(on both sides) for an amicable outcome to develop at this time. For the good of the board, you really should step back and rethink your position.


http://www.powerball.com/powerball/pb_numbers.asp
Draw Date
Powerball
11/8/2008 2 4 21 36 40 41
x 2
11/5/2008 4 8 18 33 36 32
x 2
11/1/2008 4 6 26 40 41 15

 

[classiccues]

People don't always pay when asked. I would have won two raffles, but didn't, because 1 or 2 people didn't pay in a decent ammount of time. So, that leaves me at about 0-15 in the raffles!:frown: It sucked, but I can't ask for my money back.

Had this been this guy.. oh man..

JV

 

[classiccues]

Ross,

None of us could have known that the raffle was all paid for, he didn't mark it that way until after he picked a winner. So there is no way to know which drawing he was using. he has edited the first post in the thread, i think that may be what is throwing some of you guys off. They weren't all marked paid when he picked the winner.

I never said he should send the stick and refund the money. Not sure where you came up with that

He already said why he couldn't do that. He held to the auctions principle, get over it already.

JV (--Mike, please make me the auction arbitrator..

 

[BPG24]

There's no intent to defraud here, 'at the most' poor communication of the procedure and timing. Looks to me like way too much ego and testosterone have flowed(on both sides) for an amicable outcome to develop at this time. For the good of the board, you really should step back and rethink your position.

No one, and I mean no one could have known what drawing he was using. the first page is not the same as it was when he picked a winner. there is no way to know if there is ill intent or not. All we have to go on is a strangers word. that is not good enough.

The Board needs to either take over the auctions and back them or get rid of them all together. This is not the first issue that has arisen from the raffles.

 

[BPG24]

Had this been this guy.. oh man..

JV

You have no idea what you are talking about. In fact it is pretty clear now that you just want to cause trouble.

 

[rossaroni]

I never said he should send the stick and refund the money. Not sure where you came up with that

Well, you did mention him refunding the money. I can also assure you that The Kurly One would have wanted the cue after he was told he won. Were would this leave us then?

I am going to try(not a promise, just going to try!) and stay out of this anymore, because there is no convincing either side.

 

[classiccues]

You have no idea what you are talking about. In fact it is pretty clear now that you just want to cause trouble.

What is right is right. He said powerball and that is that, he said when the auction was paid, it would be the following raffle. The only one here looking to cause trouble is YOU.

JV

 

[classiccues]

No one, and I mean no one could have known what drawing he was using. the first page is not the same as it was when he picked a winner. there is no way to know if there is ill intent or not. All we have to go on is a strangers word. that is not good enough.

The Board needs to either take over the auctions and back them or get rid of them all together. This is not the first issue that has arisen from the raffles.

Really? He was pretty clear, the drawing following full payment. He didn't even know what drawing he was using. If the last payment is made Sunday he uses the Tuesday drawing. It's pretty God damn clear to me, and I am a neutral third party.

The page was edited on 11/7 and the winner was chosen on 11/8, Saturdays powerball. You really need to know when to stop. Are you going to now accuse Mike of setting the date back?

JV

 

[BPG24]

What is right is right. He said powerball and that is that, he said when the auction was paid, it would be the following raffle. The only one here looking to cause trouble is YOU.

JV

I am not causing any trouble at all. However, i promise you that I am going to make sure this does not go way until it is fixed. I will do whatever it takes to make sure this can't happen to anyone again.

You can bet on that

 

[BPG24]

Really? He was pretty clear, the drawing following full payment. He didn't even know what drawing he was using. If the last payment is made Sunday he uses the Tuesday drawing. It's pretty God damn clear to me, and I am a neutral third party.

The page was edited on 11/7 and the winner was chosen on 11/8, Saturdays powerball. You really need to know when to stop. Are you going to now accuse Mike of setting the date back?

JV

If it was done the day after he edited it than why could he have not given notice to us. He and several of you have said that he was away and couldn't tell us. Explain it to us please.

Either way we still had no way of knowing which drawing he was using. You don't seem to get that.

 

[classiccues]

I am not causing any trouble at all. However, i promise you that I am going to make sure this does not go way until it is fixed. I will do whatever it takes to make sure this can't happen to anyone again.

You can bet on that

Nothing happened to anyone this time, so if I am Mike the way to make sure this doesn't happen again is to remove the problem.

BTW the problem is not the raffles or the runners... you can bet on that.

JV