Wrapless BK2 $8 a spot or $14 for 2 spots

[hangemhigh]

I see the problem

If it was done the day after he edited it than why could he have not given notice to us. He and several of you have said that he was away and couldn't tell us. Explain it to us please.

 

[classiccues]

If it was done the day after he edited it than why could he have not given notice to us. He and several of you have said that he was away and couldn't tell us. Explain it to us please.

Either way we still had no way of knowing which drawing he was using. You don't seem to get that.

Slowly for you.. he... said... it... would... be... the... drawing... after.. he.. got... final... payment.... Obviously... he... got.. the.. final... payment... on.. the... 8th.... he... was... away... he.... announced... the.... winner... in... accordance... to.... the.... rules ....he..... set..... forth.... You... don't... need... the ...exact..... date..... of.... the.... drawing, ...you... just.. need.... to.... know ....it... was... the... one.... following ....the... last... payment.. as... he... stated...

JV

 

[BPG24]

Nothing happened to anyone this time, so if I am Mike the way to make sure this doesn't happen again is to remove the problem.

BTW the problem is not the raffles or the runners... you can bet on that.

JV

Banning me will most definitely make everyone on AZ suffer. Do you think i would ever let this go away if that happened. lol

My reaction to the problem is not the problem.

The problem is that there is nowhere to turn when there is a problem on here. That is the fault of the moderators and the owner. You can blame me all you want to but the facts are the facts

 

[BPG24]

Slowly for you.. he... said... it... would... be... the... drawing... after.. he.. got... final... payment.... Obviously... he... got.. the.. final... payment... on.. the... 8th.... he... was... away... he.... announced... the.... winner... in... accordance... to.... the.... rules ....he..... set..... forth.... You... don't... need... the ...exact..... date..... of.... the.... drawing, ...you... just.. need.... to.... know ....it... was... the... one.... following ....the... last... payment.. as... he... stated...

JV

You still don't get it.

 

[vladmin]

I'm from Canada and I've never participated in a raffle but I already know what the power ball is and when the draws are being held. That's just because I like to read/learn new things.

Looking at the latest draws, none had any of the numbers you chose so this whole discussion it's useless IMO.

 

[classiccues]

You still don't get it.

I do get it.. you didn't get an exact date...and you're a habitual trouble maker..

I don't know what you think you're entitled to, but he doesn't have to give you an exact date. Sorry.. he said once it was filled.. he honored it and by filling out the page on the 7th, that means the p-ball after that date was the one he was using. Had he skipped the 8th, then by all means you would have an issue. There is really no issue, no matter how hard you look, you'll never find one.

So let me ask you, he is supposed to tell you that the drawing is November the 8th, 11:00:00 PM eastern standard time, 2008. If the drawing goes off on 11:00:01 PM then it's null and void?

JV

 

[shankster8]

Am I blind? No but how is your reading comprehension?

The raffle is full!!!!! Once the spots are paid for we'll raffle this baby off.

I read the whole thread and he is pretty clear. You're so far off base, it's not even funny. Like I said, if I had a raffle and made the same declaration, and for whatever reason I couldn't be there to mark everyone paid, BUT I had all the payments, that next drawing, is THE drawing. This is exactly what he did, no more, no less. Now, I like you and you're a decent poster, but this is absolutely a shallow claim. If the raffles are stopped, for whatever reason, I would encourage everyone on the site to put you on ignore.

JV

Reply by BP: "There is no date, no link or anything. Not sure how you can miss that or the post where I asked when it was happening.

The mods and the person who badly ran this raffle both had several opportunities to fix the problem. They did not and that is why we probably won't have anymore raffles. Someone has to be accountable when money is changing hands. I found out the hard way that iTrader, buyer/seller report, and reputation doesn't mean someone wont lie about something they are selling on here. Another issue totally but the principle is the same.

If money is going to change hands we need a way to police it. the self policing is not working"


I was just directed to this thread from the main forum, and I read the whole thing. I can't believe what horsesh*t this is. I guess we can all rest a bit easier knowing BP is courageous enough to cover all our ass*s despite an overwhelming preponderance of AZB'rs (and mods) encouraging him to desist. You gotta admit it takes alot of balls to , on your own, attempt to dismantle a portion of the forum that many members enjoy. I just wish he had consulted with me before counting me as one he apparently thinks he's protecting. Because I really don't want anything to do with him, now that I've seen his action.

I noticed that he has made about 4000 posts in a litle over a year. He obviously lives on the compute, and he might think that everyone else is just like him. That would explain his intolerance for the raffler not replying promptly to his Email. Pimp has a life that extends beyond the computer, unlike BP, apparently. JMHO, but he definitely should be banned for jepardizing AZB - not only the Raffles section.

 

[dfweyer]

Pimp, Simple enough.

Provide the link to the Powerball *you* used. We can easily see the date and number drawn from there and all arguments will be settled.


The link to the site is a very important feature you did not ever provide..and it is not expected of us to search it out.

Isn't the date required too...shouldn't everyone in the raffle know that it IS taking place?

 

[dfweyer]

And yet you are the only one upset that should tell you something.

If you had won what would you be saying today?

I have also voiced my concerns to the Moderators and in this thread...my first raffle was done VERY poorly!!

 

[cbi1000]

You still don't get it.

You don't get it. He got the last payment and the drawing went off. That's the only thing to get.

 

[BPG24]

Isn't the date required too...shouldn't everyone in the raffle know that it IS taking place?

yes, everyone should be notified in the thread when it is taking place. that is how it normally goes.

You and I aren't the only ones upset. I have received several PM's and a few phone calls about this.

 

[dfweyer]

Of course there is no date, do you think he is psychic? He didn't know when he was getting the last payment.

All he needed to post was...

ALL THE PAYMENTS HAVE BEEN RECEIVED AND THE AUCTION WILL TAKE PLACE ON XXXX DAY's POWERBALL.

 

[BPG24]

I have also voice my concerns to the Moderators and in this thread...my first raffle was done VERY poorly!!

like I said, you aren't alone....

 

[cbi1000]

LOL. You guys are cracking me up. Sour milk.

I just ran a raffle a few weeks back, i never had a link to anything. I said we'd be using powerball, and the drawing would be held when all was filled and paid.

I got paid, drawing went off, there was a winner, everyone happy, Well, at least the winner was happy.

MO Only.

Don't stop participating, these things are nice to have.

 

[dfweyer]

He meant good and didn't want to upset anyone. HE SHOULD HAVE ADDED THE DATE, BUT FORGOT . Him being busy and forgetting to add a few words, should not mean that he is a bad guy or in some way, was dishonest or trying to scam anyone. I will tell you one thing. He did not want to sell this cue, but had to. He had to come up with money, because he pretty much got screwed a few months ago and that left him in a bad spot. Please don't say 'he got screwed so he screwed us', or something along these lines, because he didn't screw anyone.

Not once did I see Pimp recognize his mistake...apologize for it or anything. He just began harassing BFG and egging him on.

I lurked and watched a few auctions to see how they took place...and was quite disappointed in my FIRST one.

 

[cbi1000]

http://www.powerball.com/powerball/pb_numbers.asp

He said once it was all paid, then the following raffle would be used. You can clearly see here the p-ball number was 41. Now had it been me, if I received the last payment 5 minutes, or 5 seconds, before the drawing, that is STILL the drawing. Whether or not I get time to post that info is irrelevant, especially since I gave fair warning that once it was paid, the next auction would be used.

I see absolutely no issues in the auction, or the way it played out. I think if he carried it over after receiving all the payments, then you would have an issue, since then he would not have honored his auction.

JV

tap tap tap, i completely agree. Well said.

 

[dfweyer]

BFG...Seeing as PIMP is not longer responding to this thread. Do I need to file a claim with paypal or is your's covering us all?

 

[classiccues]

Not once did I see Pimp recognize his mistake...apologize for it or anything. He just began harassing BFG and egging him on.

I lurked and watched a few auctions to see how they took place...and was quite disappointed in my FIRST one.

Enlighten me, what is his mistake? He CLEARLY stated when the auction would go off. Maybe he felt no need to say the 8th, because on the 7th he was paid. His previous post says it will be with the drawing following complete payment.

JV

 

[MikeM]

yes, everyone should be notified in the thread when it is taking place. that is how it normally goes.

You and I aren't the only ones upset. I have received several PM's and a few phone calls about this.

Required by what authority? Do either of you or your other "supposed" supporters really feel that there are a set of requirements for raffles on AZB? These raffles, like ALL of the sales in the WFS forum are unregulated - self-policed if you will. Do you really want to bring in outside scrutiny over $14?

It's obvious to everyone, except maybe you two, that there was no scam here. Once you've realized that it's time to move on with a "Hey you didn't run this very well. Do better next time." and get on with your life.

Yeah, the guy should have posted on Friday that since everyone has paid we will use the next Powerball drawing. But he didn't SAY he would beforehand. He didn't really have any details at all, yet you paid him for two spots anyway. You're expecting a lot based on assumptions alone.

You really need to take a couple of days off and not think about this issue and then come back and take a second look when you're off tilt. You'll see how far off base you really are.

MM

 

[MikeM]

Go for it.

BFG...Seeing as PIMP is not longer responding to this thread. Do I need to file a claim with paypal or is your's covering us all?

What the hell do you think that will accomplish? Paypal is not going to pay attention to this at all. You think they give a rat's ass? I can just imagine the laugh the person got reading bpg's original complaint. Think that through, a complaint from a pool forum about illegal raffles, hilarious!:grin:

Tell you what, you and bpg send me your paypal addresses and I'll send you some money. Will that make this go away?