Wrist position poll - please respond

Wrist Position - Please vote

  • Wrist slightly inward (Archer, Appleton, not as far as Alex Lely)

    Votes: 13 17.6%

  • Wrist straight (Deuel and others)

    Votes: 52 70.3%

  • Wrist slightly outward, but not as far as "The Earthquake"

    Votes: 6 8.1%

  • Other - please explain

    Votes: 3 4.1%
  • Total voters
    74
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will14.1

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I swear that I've seen one of these here, but after searching for a long time I can't find it. So...recently I've noticed that a lot of pros play with a slightly turned in wrist (Archer, SVB, Appleton, Dominguez, etc). I've been experimenting with it and it seems help me keep a loose grip and frankly shoot straighter.

My question is how do y'all shoot?
1 - Wrist slightly inward (Archer, Appleton, not as far as Alex Lely)
2 - Wrist straight (Deuel and others)
3 - Wrist slightly outward, but not as far as "The Earthquake"

Will greatly appreciate any and all responses.

Thanks!
Will
 
slightly outward......Shannon Murphy and Kid Delicious also shoot with a slightly outward wrist.....I am a short guy and I think that is the reason for it.
 
Other

I haven't figured it out yet. It doesen't seem to matter any which way.
I can make or miss with all 3 positions. :embarrassed2:
 
Straight -- and a "V" grip as well (reference Lee Brett's material).
 
I have a brutal inward curl right now... trying to get it straight though, the tension in my wrist is cutting my power a lot
 
Aten said:
I have a brutal inward curl right now... trying to get it straight though, the tension in my wrist is cutting my power a lot
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So does Jeremy Jones, and recently, Stevie Moore. (Stevie never did this before, but he recently started shooting with his wrist curled sharply inward towards his body, a la Jeremy Jones. Don't know why, but I suspect it might have to do with reducing his benign essentials tremors in that arm.)

If it works for you -- accuracy-wise -- you might have to just do without a little power. Afterall, accuracy on the shot is foremost; you'll just have to play shorter position.

Hope this is helpful,
-Sean
 
I know that Stevie Moore spent some time with Earl Strickland recently, who not only shoots with an inward-turned wrist but turns it on his follow-through. Perhaps that has something to do with the change?
 
sfleinen said:
So does Jeremy Jones, and recently, Stevie Moore. (Stevie never did this before, but he recently started shooting with his wrist curled sharply inward towards his body, a la Jeremy Jones. Don't know why, but I suspect it might have to do with reducing his benign essentials tremors in that arm.)

If it works for you -- accuracy-wise -- you might have to just do without a little power. Afterall, accuracy on the shot is foremost; you'll just have to play shorter position.

Hope this is helpful,
-Sean
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I think my accuracy is average. My aim tends to suffer a bit on power shots and very long distance cuts. I've recorded my stroke and it looks to be mostly fine except for the wrist.

The problem with my curl may lie in the fact that the amount actually changes (it worsens in my backswing and I maintain that increased curl through the final stroke).
 
I ticked "other" because the question is misleading: there is no rule other than that where one's grip hand is holding the cue should be dangling, i.e. hanging loosely like a plumb bob. Remember the human lower arm is no ideal "pendulum" since it's made of ulna and radius, not to mention all the phalanges (finger bones) in one's hand. The point is, whether or not that grip hand is hanging loosely like a plumb bob, and swinging like a pendulum, has nothing to do with what it "looks like" when someone takes of photograph of one's wrist, let alone when one turns one's head to have a look at it, which usually means it's nowhere where it would be if one weren't rotating one's torso. One can tell when it's perfect: feel it! A keen-eyed instructor should also be able to tell, still as well as in motion. Tension is visible and makes itself felt. Same is true of looseness. It's not a matter of copying someone else's wrist "position" (= don't forget, what matters isn't the static part, but the motion). The thought of it alone makes me shudder…

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will14.1 said:
I swear that I've seen one of these here, but after searching for a long time I can't find it. So...recently I've noticed that a lot of pros play with a slightly turned in wrist (Archer, SVB, Appleton, Dominguez, etc). I've been experimenting with it and it seems help me keep a loose grip and frankly shoot straighter.

My question is how do y'all shoot?
1 - Wrist slightly inward (Archer, Appleton, not as far as Alex Lely)
2 - Wrist straight (Deuel and others)
3 - Wrist slightly outward, but not as far as "The Earthquake"

Will greatly appreciate any and all responses.

Thanks!
Will
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Several years ago I had a big problem with "twisting" my wrist on shots that would have made my finish position turned inward.

The issue with this is that I was putting unintended english on the cue ball, which made it difficult to play pinpoint position. In addition, I would also rattle a lot of balls in corner pockets.

I got a tip from Dick Leonard on the Billiard Digest forum on how to stop it.

Since that time, with his tip, I have been able to play much better position with keeping my wrist striaght through the shot without twisting it and being more accurate (much less rattling in corner pockets).

However, I must admit, I did get some pretty awesome english with the wrist twist, I just couldn't accurately predict position.

YMMV.
 
JDB said:
Several years ago I had a big problem with "twisting" my wrist on shots that would have made my finish position turned inward.

The issue with this is that I was putting unintended english on the cue ball, which made it difficult to play pinpoint position. In addition, I would also rattle a lot of balls in corner pockets.

I got a tip from Dick Leonard on the Billiard Digest forum on how to stop it.

Since that time, with his tip, I have been able to play much better position with keeping my wrist striaght through the shot without twisting it and being more accurate (much less rattling in corner pockets).

However, I must admit, I did get some pretty awesome english with the wrist twist, I just couldn't accurately predict position.

YMMV.
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What was the tip? I feel my wrist twist on some shots also. Obviously, I don't do it intentionally.
 
I am one of the 3 others so far in the poll..... I am an avid user of BHE and I accomplish this by turning the wrist in or out to get there......

I also twist bank most of my banks and I will alter my wrist position for hedging my speed...

If I am using follow and being long is being better than short I rotate to having the weight of my hand on top of the cue..... If I want to hedge short I rotate the hand to the weight is under the cue... for draw I do the reverse......

I discussed this with a local BCA instructor and while he said he would never teach someone these things after watching me hit balls he said I shouldn't change it......
 
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