X. Pan's non-foul, foul

StormHotRod300

StormHotRod300

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As i watching the Kelly Fischer vs Xiaoting Pan match, she gets hooked behind a couple balls with the 3 out by the head spot with the 9ball.

She jumps and cleanly hits the 3 ball and then hits the 9ball, pots the 3ball too!!!!! And gets called for a bad hit!!!!

Even Jeannette Lee who was doing commentating during the match said from the get go, without replay, said it was a clean hit, because the 9ball went, backwards instead of forwards on the hit.

Needless to say Pan ended up loosing the match and that rack because of this terrible call.
 
agree

Easy to see what happened there. All I can wonder is if Pan was still down on her shot and couldn't see herself. Regardless, bad call by the ref and a two game swing because of it.

Hu
 
StormHotRod300 said:
As i watching the Kelly Fischer vs Xiaoting Pan match, she gets hooked behind a couple balls with the 3 out by the head spot with the 9ball.

She jumps and cleanly hits the 3 ball and then hits the 9ball, pots the 3ball too!!!!! And gets called for a bad hit!!!!

Even Jeannette Lee who was doing commentating during the match said from the get go, without replay, said it was a clean hit, because the 9ball went, backwards instead of forwards on the hit.

Needless to say Pan ended up loosing the match and that rack because of this terrible call.
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Unbelievable. Probably a dig?
 
ShootingArts said:
Easy to see what happened there. All I can wonder is if Pan was still down on her shot and couldn't see herself.
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I wonder if her quiet demeanor at the table played a part here. She may have respectfully accepted Steve's ruling...whether she thought it was correct or not. Without doubt, it was a good hit that any person with marginal pool experience (or even a D- in physics) could comprehend.

Steve was not in a position to make a proper "call" (which he should have been considering the proximity of the balls and high probability for a foul to take place). I think he just tossed a coin in his head and called the foul.
 
mosconiac said:
I wonder if her quiet demeanor at the table played a part here. She may have respectfully accepted Steve's ruling...whether she thought it was correct or not. Without doubt, it was a good hit that any person with marginal pool experience (or even a D- in physics) could comprehend.

Steve was not in a position to make a proper "call" (which he should have been considering the proximity of the balls and high probability for a foul to take place). I think he just tossed a coin in his head and called the foul.
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Steve is a great guy and a superb announcer. He just never learned how to be a good official. Rarely is he in the proper position to call a hit. RARELY!
 
a strong possibility

I considered that too. A strong possibility that an engrained respect for authority caused her to accept the ruling without question. Regardless, a terrible call that may well have decided the match.

Hu



mosconiac said:
I wonder if her quiet demeanor at the table played a part here. She may have respectfully accepted Steve's ruling...whether she thought it was correct or not. Without doubt, it was a good hit that any person with marginal pool experience (or even a D- in physics) could comprehend.

Steve was not in a position to make a proper "call" (which he should have been considering the proximity of the balls and high probability for a foul to take place). I think he just tossed a coin in his head and called the foul.
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I saw the match and agree, it was a bad call. Does she have the right to appeal? How does that work? Instant replay?
 
In the telecast, Jeannette Lee said, X. Pan could have challenged the ruling.

I'm guessing they would have a instant replay setup? But i know even Jeannette Lee was upset over the call.
 
StormHotRod300 said:
In the telecast, Jeannette Lee said, X. Pan could have challenged the ruling.

I'm guessing they would have a instant replay setup? But i know even Jeannette Lee was upset over the call.
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How can you challenge a referee ruling?

If somebody can tell me, I'll tell her so she will know next time.
 
In Taiwan, a referee for pro games usually is a semi-pro player. The reason is that the referee must know where the balls go when foul occurred. Sometimes it is too quick to
be judged by your eyes, only can judged by the basic pool knowledge.
Pool knowledge can only be gained by playing pool.
 
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