Xtreme Breaker, or just X Breaker

X Breaker

X Breaker

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Xtrem Breaker: Amazing Jump shots videos!

I was talking about this new jump break cue on the other thread that Bustamante was using in the WPC 2005. I have decided to start a new thread so more people can read about this.

Jennifer Chen was saying she has just started using it in her last two tournaments and in both tournaments she was playing better than she ever had in the last year. (The first tournament was the World Game, which she won a Silver Medal; the second one was the WPBA Peoria tournament, in which she beat Ga Young Kim and earned a 3rd place finish.)

It is a cue designed to provide very good control on the cue ball in both breaking and jumping. It is not just a cue with a hard tip.

Having said that, the tip used on this new invention is a secret material which is harder than any phenolic tip on the market right now. but it holds chalk like a leather tip! Therefore, it is very easy to jump, and it breaks the balls hard but with very good control and feel.

There is a web site with more information: www.xtremebilliard.com

Thank you very much.

Richard
 
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does anyone have one to give us a review? I wonder how it compares to the stinger...
 
nipponbilliards said:
I was talking about this new jump break cue on the other thread that Bustamante was using in the WPC 2005. I have decided to start a new thread so more people can read about this.

Jennifer Chen was saying she has just started using it in her last two tournaments and in both tournaments she was playing better than she ever had in the last year. (The first tournament was the World Game, which she won a Silver Medal; the second one was the WPBA Peoria tournament, in which she beat Ga Young Kim and earned a 3rd place finish.)

It is a cue designed to provide very good control on the cue ball in both breaking and jumping. It is not just a cue with a hard tip.

Having said that, the tip used on this new invention is a secret material which is harder than any phenolic tip on the market right now. but it holds chalk like a leather tip! Therefore, it is very easy to jump, and it breaks the balls hard but with very good control and feel.

There is a web site with more information: www.xtremebilliard.com

Thank you very much.

Richard
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If you read the website, it sounds like a knock off of someone elses tip and ferrule design.
 
The tip is a screw on tip which is not flat on the bottom, the tip material is a patented new material which has never been used by any other company before. I know the screw on tip has been used for many years, but unlike the traditional type, this tip is also glued so it cannot be unscrewed.

This breaker does not result in too much squirt, unlike the Predator, the ferrule stays clean and will not crack. The design allows the ball to jump and break straight with control.

Normally, for an average player, if they break very hard with a phenolic tip, they will either miscue or fly the ball off the table(or of course, get a nice break). With this cue, the cue ball stays on the table a lot more even if you break 100%. I have not see another cue on the market which can do that consistently.

This tip holds chalk really well. When I chalked the tip, I could not hear any of the glassy sound that I normally hear when I chalk a phenolic tip. I can jump a few times without chalking and I still do not miscue. Because it holds chalk so well, I do not have to worry about the miscue if I break too hard, and I can hit lower on the cue ball when I jump.

Thank you.

Richard
 
It was very well received in the World Pool Championship 2005 in Taiwan. Over 20 cues were sold out in 2 days to professional players in the tournament.

This cue comes with linen joint collars at all the joints(the main joint and the jump break joint) so it is more durable than the ones which do not have them. The piloted 14 thread(fits Falcon, Schon, Old Predator) offers a tighter fit and it makes it easier for the players to switch their playing shafts when going to a bar or when they only want to bring one cue with them.

There are a lot of pictures and video on the site. www.xtremebilliard.com

They are featured in a gallery so you need to click the link and then use the "back" button to go back to the site afterward.

Richard
 
The tip is a new patented material. It holds chalk very well. It does not sound like glass at all when being used for breaking, jumping, or during chalking.
I have tried a cue with a glassy epoxy tip before and it was very loud. It sounded like something was broken when I broke with it.
This tip is very quiet. Actually, it is too quiet to be that hard.
There are a few jump shot videos up in the site now. I noticed that when this cue jumps, it does not sound loud at all. It almost feels like a leather tip except that it is effortless to jump. And it is very easy to control the direction so the cue ball does not spin or curve.
With some very light jump cues, it would feel like flying a paper plane. The cue ball will curve and go somewhere unintended; with the X breaker, it stays along its intended course.
 
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I'd like to know what the material they use for the tip is.

It looks like they are going to great effort *not* to mention what it is.
 
It appears to me most companies would like to keep their trade secrets. For example, the ferrule material used by Predator, the tip material used by the Sledgehammer and the Stinger, or the way Moori tips were glued and compressed...etc are examples of things that they would not freely discuss with their customers. I think it is only normal considering the company has invested and spent so much time and money to come up with their products.

I would be more concerned about whether a new product is really performing. I hope you can draw your own conclusion to that question when more videos and pictures are up on the site www.xtremebilliard.com. Perhaps it would help if some professional players would share their feedbacks?
Thank you.
 
Black-Balled said:
Just checked out the pics. That is a good looking series of cues!
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Right now, there are three models. The logo is laser engraved on the jump break joint.
 
nipponbilliards said:
It appears to me most companies would like to keep their trade secrets. For example, the ferrule material used by Predator, the tip material used by the Sledgehammer and the Stinger, or the way Moori tips were glued and compressed...Thank you.
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Proprietary stuff is just fine, you said it is patented though.

If it is protected, why the secrecy?

For the sanctioning bodies of pool, IIRC, the tip needs to be fiber or leather.
There were arguments against phenolic which lost out because it is fiberous.


For 350 bucks, I would like to know more about it.......other than it is hard.

Just my opinion.
 
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I understand that. And I agree with you that a customer has the right to know if what they are using is legal.

Mr. Bustamente was breaking with a X Breaker in the World Pool Championship 2005. You can see that he was breaking with the flaming birdseye model if you watch him play on TV, which is the model with an orange stain.

Jennifer Chen used the X Breaker in the World Game, and also in the WPBA tournament. When you watch Jennifer's match on TV in which she beat Ga Young Kim on ESPN, you will see her breaking with the classic maple model. It is the one built with a beautiful piece of unstained birdseye maple.

The tip is legal. There are talks that a sledgehammer type of tip will be banned, but even if that happens, the X Breaker features a ferrule and a tip so it will not be affected.

There are a lot of companies which try to make fake copies of cues and sell them for a fraction of the price. Just look at how many cues are out there with a tip/ferrule combo these days, or a cue that looks exactly like a bunjee for less than $30, or a fake Southwest with the exact Southwest taper for under $200. Unfortunately, nothing is good enough to protect the rights of the inventors in some parts of the world. The main reason why a company with a revolutionary product such as the X Breaker would want to keep certain details of its product a secret is to prevent knock offs coming up and being distributed. I am sure you can understand that it is a big waste of time and money to chase all the manufacturers and distributors in case of an infringement lawsuit. Any company would rather invest its time and energy to serve its customers and to improve its technology.

In my opinion, customers and pool players are going to gain a lot of advantages and benefits when a company, which focuses on innovative technology, devotes its time and energy solely in the business of offering more products which are engineered and designed to enhance/improve performance of the players, hence raise the level of the billiard sports in general. :)

Richard
 
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Mr. Wilson said:
Proprietary stuff is just fine, you said it is patented though.

If it is protected, why the secrecy?

For the sanctioning bodies of pool, IIRC, the tip needs to be fiber or leather.
There were arguments against phenolic which lost out because it is fiberous.


For 350 bucks, I would like to know more about it.......other than it is hard.

Just my opinion.
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One potential is that with no governing bodies in pool I do not think that it could be banned because it gives an unfair advantage (just thinking of different golf clubs of past). But what about individual tournaments? Another question is that if a tip can be made out of a non-leather material, why not develop one that no longer requires chalk? One that doesn't misscue.
 
It would be an amazing breakthrough if such a tip can be invented. Other than holding chalk, the ability to provide good feedbacks is also very important when looking for a good tip. It affects how well the player can control the cue ball with the tip.

The Xtreme tip which is being used on the X Breaker (www.xtremebilliard.com) is a step closer to a tip that does not require chalking yet still provides a good feel. It is harder than phenolic but it has solved the common problem of not being able to hold chalk.

As a matter of fact, most pro players who used the X Breaker have never used a tip pik on their X Breakers because it is simply not necessary. Not only that, the Xtreme tip also offers a more sensitive feel and feedbacks than any phenolic tip.

I believe there was a rubber tip on the market before which was supposed to be a tip that did not require any chalk but I am not entirely sure.

Richard
 
Thoughts ...

I would have to see one in person and try it first
before I would buy one. I don't care for the wraps
on the curly maple or birdseye (a darker color would
make the cues looker 'richer' IMHO). The black is okay.
 
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Rich, caption says Corey is breaking but he's seated as Mika is shooting.
 
Joey,
:)
Yes, but you can see the X Breaker sitting right next to his case. It is the Flaming Birdseye model with an orange stained on birdseye maple.
There is a picture of Corey breaking with the X Breaker on the site.
Anyway, thank you for taking the time to click the site(www.xtremebilliard.com).
Take care,
Richard
 

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Break cue prices

I read somewhere that Predator thinks that they have maxed out the price point that someone would pay for a break cue. This year the prices have busted above the $300 mark. The sledge II, the stinger and now the x.

Where are the X cues made and where are the distributed from?
 
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