You gotta be kiddin me....

POCKETWOLF

POCKETWOLF

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Those of you with kids in school have the pleasure of fundraisers, some of which involve selling magazines. I was flipping through the catalog looking for something good when i found it...pool and billiard mag. I was almost happy until i saw the price-----35 bones for 12 issues.:eek::eek::eek: Are you friggin kidding me? I can get 2 car mags for under 20 bucks, what a joke. Thanks for nothin pool and billiard, back to the cookie dough catalog:mad:.
 
Inside Pool magazine contacted me by phone a few weeks ago wanting to give me a great deal to continue my subscription (which I have been contemplating letting lapse). I told the lady on the phone that I would have to think it over. Then, a couple of days later, my September issue came in the mail. It was a whole rip-roarin' 48 pages in length :eek:! Made my decision pretty easy.

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The print media is having a tough go of it in these difficult economic times. It is not only contained to the pool print media, but it's everywhere.

Sponsors are reluctant to pay for advertising in print media. They're going for the Internet, since this is where most people get their news these days.

The pool industry members are not as forthcoming with monetary support for professional pool, and now I fear that the pool print media might be experiencing the same.

I love these pool magazines and hope they continue to flourish. :)
 
JAM said:
The print media is having a tough go of it in these difficult economic times. It is not only contained to the pool print media, but it's everywhere.

Sponsors are reluctant to pay for advertising in print media. They're going for the Internet, since this is where most people get their news these days.

The pool industry members are not as forthcoming with monetary support for professional pool, and now I fear that the pool print media might be experiencing the same.

I love these pool magazines and hope they continue to flourish. :)
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I also loved reading the periodicals but I couldn't even imagine buying them now. I still have many stacked up like cord wood in my shop:wink:. With the internet the news is instant and there is no end to the pics. I even prefer reading the local newspaper the night before it comes out.
 
Heh, Billiards Digest, 12 issues for $48.00. I got a subscription at pooldawg.com for half that.
 
I agree that times are tough, they're tough for the people buying their product as well. I also hope the pool medias grow the sport for the well being of everyone concerned, but be real. I won't shell out 35 bones for one mag, when i can get two mags for 15 in another area i enjoy as well, it don't make sense. I'm tired of hearing how bad the pool world is when i don't see any true attempts to get it going again. You don't jack up the price to gain interest from new clients. You don't have a dozen different sanctioning bodies for one sport and hope for the best. It just might be a good idea to promote the stars of the sport, even if they aren't Jeanette Lee. You don't allow BOWLING to become bigger than you are.
Sorry, guess that had to come out. I'm just pissed that we seem to have no plan other than to charge the people who support what we love 35 bucks for a mag. I can always take up knitting, i'll have plenty of sweaters for the winters, and the mag is only 10 bucks for a year.
 
JAM said:
The print media is having a tough go of it in these difficult economic times. It is not only contained to the pool print media, but it's everywhere.

Sponsors are reluctant to pay for advertising in print media. They're going for the Internet, since this is where most people get their news these days.

The pool industry members are not as forthcoming with monetary support for professional pool, and now I fear that the pool print media might be experiencing the same.

I love these pool magazines and hope they continue to flourish. :)
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I'm in total agreement with this. The net is clobbering print media. Not just pool magazines, either. Ever noticed how skinny the daily newspapers are becoming? Car magazines (I'm a gearhead) are also suffering.
 
pwd72s said:
I'm in total agreement with this. The net is clobbering print media. Not just pool magazines, either. Ever noticed how skinny the daily newspapers are becoming? Car magazines (I'm a gearhead) are also suffering.
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This is my point, i can get 2 car mags for 15 bucks for a year. Pool and Billiard? 35 bucks. Somebody gets it- somebody doesn't.
 
ditto

what get me is i just mailed a check for school tax for 260.00, and i am a73yr old senior citizen?? but yet have children ringing my door to buy somthing!!!!!!:confused:
 
pwd72s said:
I'm in total agreement with this. The net is clobbering print media. Not just pool magazines, either. Ever noticed how skinny the daily newspapers are becoming? Car magazines (I'm a gearhead) are also suffering.
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When I was a child, I can remember enjoying the funnies in the Sunday paper, those colored comic strips. They were so much fun. :grin-square:

The Sunday paper today does not contain the same advertising that they used to. There isn't the TV guide anymore either.

The print media is trying desparately to come up with new and innovative ways to attract new readers and keep the old ones interested, but many long-established newspapers have gone belly up.

The mags are a little bit unique in that they have a different readership than a newspaper, but pool magazines have to get their content to the printer 2 and 3 months before it is published. By then, we all know what happened at such-and-such pool tournament.
 
POCKETWOLF said:
This is my point, i can get 2 car mags for 15 bucks for a year. Pool and Billiard? 35 bucks. Somebody gets it- somebody doesn't.
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Actually, in the print media biz, it's all about circulation numbers. The greater the readership, the more they can charge for advertising. There are more "car guys" to subscribe to car mags than there are pool hall junkies willing to subscribe to a pool magazine.

Plus, Vic Jr. gets a lot more money for a Mustang eforce Edelbrock supercharger than Viking gets for a cue. ;)
 
JAM said:
When I was a child, I can remember enjoying the funnies in the Sunday paper, those colored comic strips. They were so much fun. :grin-square:

The Sunday paper today does not contain the same advertising that they used to. There isn't the TV guide anymore either.

The print media is trying desparately to come up with new and innovative ways to attract new readers and keep the old ones interested, but many long-established newspapers have gone belly up.

The mags are a little bit unique in that they have a different readership than a newspaper, but pool magazines have to get their content to the printer 2 and 3 months before it is published. By then, we all know what happened at such-and-such pool tournament.
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Why the delay JAM? What makes it so difficult for pool, and not other sports? Do you disagree that we need ONE governing body for pool? As it is, you know who the nfl/ncaa/pba/nba/nhl,etc. are. Who the f are we? Who is the media supposed to pay attention to when we don't know? Other sports get their respected medias out in a week, we take months.....
 
POCKETWOLF said:
Why the delay JAM? What makes it so difficult for pool, and not other sports? Do you disagree that we need ONE governing body for pool? As it is, you know who the nfl/ncaa/pba/nba/nhl,etc. are. Who the f are we? Who is the media supposed to pay attention to when we don't know? Other sports get their respected medias out in a week, we take months.....
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At one time, I thought a pool organization was the answer, but I don't anymore. Pool is a rich man's high, a recreational game, and the best bang for the buck if you want to compete in pool is the regional tours and the leagues. Professional pool is not fun. Playing on the leagues and tours is a ton of fun.

When the existing lot of American professional players become totally extinct, so, too, will the pool mags in America.

There is no change agent or magic bullet. Pool is not an American sport.
 
POCKETWOLF said:
Those of you with kids in school have the pleasure of fundraisers, some of which involve selling magazines. I was flipping through the catalog looking for something good when i found it...pool and billiard mag. I was almost happy until i saw the price-----35 bones for 12 issues.:eek::eek::eek: Are you friggin kidding me? I can get 2 car mags for under 20 bucks, what a joke. Thanks for nothin pool and billiard, back to the cookie dough catalog:mad:.
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Another variable in the price of the subscription is the print count on the publication. The company I work for prints several car and motorcycle type magazines. The print count on most of those titles is around 300,000 where as I heard years ago that P&B mag only had a print count of around 20,000. With a publication that small, The cost to print, bind and mail your magazine is probably close to a break even point with the cost of your subscription. Any profits that they make, probably comes from the advertisors not from subscription sales. The bigger the print count, the more they can charge for advertising and the cheaper it is for you.
 
Stick 8 made a good point as well. WHY do schools send kids out as peddlers? Not only do they make little money, they are being placed in a potentially dangerous situation.

When our daughter was young..I just asked how much they expected to make from my daughter...then I'd write a check. I did NOT want her ringing strangers doorbells.
 
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