You play pool, but do you smoke?
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I never figured how much I saved a year but I quit cold turkey on January 2nd 2000 my daughters birthday at that time I had smoked 26 years and was 5 packs a day for at least 15 years before quitting. When I quit I was saving 98 bucks a week and that is a brand new truck in your driveway and steak for supper. Some advise don't tell anyone period that you are quitting so you don't hear any remarks or questions about 1 last one or do you want one. My wife and daughter didn't realize I had quit for 2 weeks till she heard me tell someone on the phone that I did'nt need to get off the phone to go outside and smoke since I had quit, they both jumped up and hugged me and I new I was cured. Good luck and it ain't really hard if I can quit chain smoking cold turkey Leonard
Mark me in the 'NO' column. My grandfather has such a bad case of Empysema- he can barely walk anymore- let alone play pool. After about 5 steps he has to stop and take a breather. He has to carry around an oxygen tank now too. I never wanna give up the things I love because of smoking.
My grandpa and grandma / moms parents both died from smoking, grandpa throat cancer and grandma empysema.
I DO NOT SMOKE!!! I'd love to see my state go non-smoking, cuz i hate comming home from the pool hall and smelling like smoke.
Years ago, when i bowled in leagues, there was plenty of times when it was just a thick haze of smoke across all 30lanes.
I know some guys who do smoke and they wish there was pool halls that were non smoking.
I DO NOT SMOKE!!! I'd love to see my state go non-smoking, cuz i hate comming home from the pool hall and smelling like smoke.
Years ago, when i bowled in leagues, there was plenty of times when it was just a thick haze of smoke across all 30lanes.
I know some guys who do smoke and they wish there was pool halls that were non smoking.
MrLucky said:in your example of eating and smoking ! I when going into a restaurant choose the menu item I want ! I am not ingesting your sloppy joe at the same time just because you sat next to me and chose to make a poor gastronomical choice ! So their is a very distinct difference in my having to inhale your body toxins and second hand smoke just because I would like to have equal access to my recreation of choice !
between us , you might look at being as concerned about your health and longevity as you are about your clothes getting smoky
But nobody is forcing you to go into smoky places either. If you choose to shoot pool you can choose to shoot it where there is no smoke. You choose to drive, and might even be the most cautious driver ever, but still run the risk of somebody else causing you physical harm. My point had much more to do with government bans. If the majority of folks that shot pool refused to do so in smoky environments then you'd see more smoke-free poolhalls, and the government wouldn't have to BAN smoking. The free market can deicde things like this if folks are willing to stick to their guns. Your recreation of choice has nothing to do with it...I'd like to play golf on courses with no ballmarks left all over the putting greens, and not have to hear others swear at the top of their lungs after they hit their umpteenth ball into a water hazard....this all might cause me stress and shorten my lifespan...maybe the government should - aw forget it!
In theory yes! but in real life not .......
The problem with this is as long as no one forces a smoking ban there is no pressure or reason for a pool hall to self impose one, since we all know that would be like a business man volunteering to take away business ! the smokers would just all go away to a smoke filled room! But if it was equally imposed on all pool rooms / public places of business then smokers would have to adjust to being considerate of others health and hygiene instead of todays attitudes of "F"... em if they do not share my addiction ! (for the most part)
don'trustrusty said:
The problem with this is as long as no one forces a smoking ban there is no pressure or reason for a pool hall to self impose one, since we all know that would be like a business man volunteering to take away business ! the smokers would just all go away to a smoke filled room! But if it was equally imposed on all pool rooms / public places of business then smokers would have to adjust to being considerate of others health and hygiene instead of todays attitudes of "F"... em if they do not share my addiction ! (for the most part)
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trustyrusty said:But nobody is forcing you to go into smoky places either. If you choose to shoot pool you can choose to shoot it where there is no smoke. You choose to drive, and might even be the most cautious driver ever, but still run the risk of somebody else causing you physical harm. My point had much more to do with government bans. If the majority of folks that shot pool refused to do so in smoky environments then you'd see more smoke-free poolhalls, and the government wouldn't have to BAN smoking. The free market can deicde things like this if folks are willing to stick to their guns. Your recreation of choice has nothing to do with it...I'd like to play golf on courses with no ballmarks left all over the putting greens, and not have to hear others swear at the top of their lungs after they hit their umpteenth ball into a water hazard....this all might cause me stress and shorten my lifespan...maybe the government should - aw forget it!
What's the difference? Government or smokers limiting my choices?
And for those that are scared a ban will affect business...everyone gets hit with the same law, so business goes back to being business as usual.
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I'm on board with Rusty here and I rarely smoke....you ban smoking, you take away another freedom, and what's gonna be next....supply and demand drive business owners to make decisions....while the poll have 70% of pool players here not smoking, I don't think this is indicative of the pool public.....I'd guess more like 50+% smoke....if they don't want smoke, they can prohibit smoking in their place of business...
Couple of similar examples:
Idiots that do 60mph in the left lane on a 65mph freeway when they could easily be in the right, but they'd rather not have to bother with those entering the freeway, and they are too busy beating their kids while talking on a cell phone to notice anyway.....this is a huge negative impact on my life, driving up my blood pressure and shortening my life every day.....these people are everywhere, but is it my right to ban them from the freeway, or if I was in LA, shoot them???
Shows on TV - if ya don't like it, turn the channel. I hate infomercials and those church programs that last 24 hours and have people with 8 coats of makeup, but I don't need to ban them....click, and they are gone.
Obeise people - I hear all the time that obeise people, much like smokers, cost insurance companies money and drive up premiums for the average joe.....do we ban big folks from insurance??? I've got a few big folks in my family, but I still love them.
Kinda got off the beaten path - point is, if ya don't wanna smoke, go places that dont' allow smoking, but I don't know if banning things is the way to go
Couple of similar examples:
Idiots that do 60mph in the left lane on a 65mph freeway when they could easily be in the right, but they'd rather not have to bother with those entering the freeway, and they are too busy beating their kids while talking on a cell phone to notice anyway.....this is a huge negative impact on my life, driving up my blood pressure and shortening my life every day.....these people are everywhere, but is it my right to ban them from the freeway, or if I was in LA, shoot them???
Shows on TV - if ya don't like it, turn the channel. I hate infomercials and those church programs that last 24 hours and have people with 8 coats of makeup, but I don't need to ban them....click, and they are gone.
Obeise people - I hear all the time that obeise people, much like smokers, cost insurance companies money and drive up premiums for the average joe.....do we ban big folks from insurance??? I've got a few big folks in my family, but I still love them.
Kinda got off the beaten path - point is, if ya don't wanna smoke, go places that dont' allow smoking, but I don't know if banning things is the way to go
Every day I hear someone saying that they're trying, or that they plan on, or that they are going to quit smoking...it seems to me that most people need help. Banning smoking in places will help them, I assure you. As for my local pool hall...the owner smokes; it's not getting banned.
New info out!! you didn't quit smoking!!!
Breathing the poison air is like you have smoked!!! Surgeon General's New report revealed non-smokers exposed to second-hand smoke were 30% more likely to have heart disease and cancer.
Waiters and bartenders have a 50% more chance of contracting lung cancer then any other profession .
Now put that in your pipe and swallow it. You stated 50% in room smoked ,about right.
75%+ Don't nationwide. add 25%+ that stay away from rooms because of the smoke. You do the math. It's coming get use to it!
Breathing the poison air is like you have smoked!!! Surgeon General's New report revealed non-smokers exposed to second-hand smoke were 30% more likely to have heart disease and cancer. Waiters and bartenders have a 50% more chance of contracting lung cancer then any other profession .
Now put that in your pipe and swallow it. You stated 50% in room smoked ,about right.
75%+ Don't nationwide. add 25%+ that stay away from rooms because of the smoke. You do the math. It's coming get use to it!
Big Perm said:I'm on board with Rusty here and I rarely smoke....you ban smoking, you take away another freedom, and what's gonna be next....supply and demand drive business owners to make decisions....while the poll have 70% of pool players here not smoking, I don't think this is indicative of the pool public.....I'd guess more like 50+% smoke....if they don't want smoke, they can prohibit smoking in their place of business...
Couple of similar examples:
Idiots that do 60mph in the left lane on a 65mph freeway when they could easily be in the right, but they'd rather not have to bother with those entering the freeway, and they are too busy beating their kids while talking on a cell phone to notice anyway.....this is a huge negative impact on my life, driving up my blood pressure and shortening my life every day.....these people are everywhere, but is it my right to ban them from the freeway, or if I was in LA, shoot them???
Shows on TV - if ya don't like it, turn the channel. I hate infomercials and those church programs that last 24 hours and have people with 8 coats of makeup, but I don't need to ban them....click, and they are gone.
Obeise people - I hear all the time that obeise people, much like smokers, cost insurance companies money and drive up premiums for the average joe.....do we ban big folks from insurance??? I've got a few big folks in my family, but I still love them.
Kinda got off the beaten path - point is, if ya don't wanna smoke, go places that dont' allow smoking, but I don't know if banning things is the way to go
JoeyA said:
California banned smoking everywhere! ...Did all the restaurants and bars and pool rooms shut down? C'mon people. JoeyA is stating the obvious. Smokers use this argument that every business will shut down if smoking is outlawed. It just doesnt happen. Over 50% of our country (by population) is currently under a smoking ban for public places. Guess what? 50% of our country did NOT shut down. I have several people a night leave my pool room because of the smoke. I look forward to the day St. Louis bans smoking in public places. All those customers that currently avoid pool rooms in favor of movie theaters etc for entertainment will hopefully come back. And I wont have to spend an hour every single day cleaning up cigarrette butts and packages every day. I wont have to vaccuum all the ashes off the pool table cloth anymore. I wont have to repair the burn marks in all the furniture anymore. I wont have to vaccuum 3 times a night when someone knocks off an ashtray on the floor sending trash everywhere. Yes...I look forward to the smoking ban.
As far as everyone complaining about government intervention. It was the govt that intervened on asbestos because so many people were dying from exposure. It was the govt that told business to install seat belts and air bags in cars reducing deaths by car crashes. It was govt that told businesses (cotton farmers etc) they couldnt have slavery anymore. Gee...look how mean the govt is....those poor cotton farmers cant whip people no mo'. Now they have to hire people.
The government tells businesses what they can or cannot do for the simple reason that most businesses will do what makes them the most profit regardless of how many people get hurt or killed. Sorry...that IS a fact. Abuse of power by business over thier employees and thier customers is why the govt is always stepping in. That is the whole point behind OSHA and overtime laws. ETC ETC ETC ETC.
I am a business owner and I HATE being told what to do. I have 100's of laws I have to follow every day to stay in business. It is the choice my family made and we have to live with it. Public smoking will be gone soon. I will have to be the one to enforce it. I will have to be the one to pay fines if I dont. These are all the joys and benefits of owning your own business. I chose this life. No regrets.
I smoke cigars... and when the smoking ban started ~1 year ago here in Wa state, I really missed being able to shoot pool and smoke cigars at the same time in public... but now that we're a year down the road, I now realize that a lot of other people that frequent the same bars/pool halls that I do really appreciate the fact that smoking inside is now prohibited. For many of them, it was more than a nuisance item.
I'd thought that I would miss it more than I do now. I guess that I'm adapting.
I'd thought that I would miss it more than I do now. I guess that I'm adapting.
Interesting... Based on many of these posts in this thread, it looks like these smoking ban policies have created quite a shift. Not only do the nonsmokers appreciate the smoke free environments, but many smokers are recognizing the advantages as well. The automatic response was that banning smoking in bars / pool halls would cause them all to close, yet when the ban is enacted in a widespread area (ie state level) then it's had very minimum negative impacts. In addition there has been some positive increase in business from new non-smoking customers. And to top it off, many smokers are gaining the desire and strength in order to proceed with quitting the nasty habit.
No wonder why in Arizona when the legislation was put forth, the tobacco industry sponsored and put forth a sham legislation campaign which was designed to look like an anti-smoking legislation, but the details were actually pro-smoking. Luckily the citizens saw through the scam from the tobacco industry, and picked the real one.
No wonder why in Arizona when the legislation was put forth, the tobacco industry sponsored and put forth a sham legislation campaign which was designed to look like an anti-smoking legislation, but the details were actually pro-smoking. Luckily the citizens saw through the scam from the tobacco industry, and picked the real one.
Banning smoking in a single pool hall or bar or something would probably be devistating for business, but if it is done widespread, it would work out fine for the businesses...
It's still interesting, I thought most pool players smoked...I guess it seems that playing pool has no correlation with smoking.
It's still interesting, I thought most pool players smoked...I guess it seems that playing pool has no correlation with smoking.