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thanks to dmgwalsh for the link
http://vimeo.com/82525208
curious what the experts have to say
i almost never saw him line up from away from the table and "step"into his shot
he seemed to slide into his address position on the table
look at his elbow drop
curious what the instructors have to say about his psr and shot mechanics
just think how good he could play if he worked at improving those areas....:D
 
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My opinions....they work for him. That does not equate to working for anyone else on the planet. Also, it's very possible he could be even better doing some things a little differently.

If you really just want to follow what different pros do, then shoot sidearm like McCready while using a pump stroke like Bustamente along with a little short stroke like Hopkins, take 2-5 minutes to shoot a duck like Basovich or 5 seconds like Drago, and then see how that works out for you.;)
 
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bbb said:
thanks to dmgwalsh for the link
http://vimeo.com/82525208
curious what the experts have to say
i almost never saw him line up from away from the table and "step"into his shot
he seemed to slide into his address position on the table
look at his elbow drop
curious what the instructors have to say about his psr and shot mechanics
just think how good he could play if he worked at improving those areas....:D
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There's nothing wrong with the elbow dropping. Mika swears by this technique.

I always watch feet placement more than anything to tell how well someone can potentially play and John has great footwork. His rhythm
is also really good which is apparently beneficial playing straight pool.....this is the first time I've ever seen him play 14.1 and I learned a couple key things about the break shot, rhythm and pattern play.

No question the average to advanced players can learn a bundle about straight pool by watching this video. It looks like the same table that Corey ran 200 balls...not sure if it is or not. 'The Game is the Teacher'
 
Nothing, other than making the game far more difficult to learn, for the average player. Elbow drop is a choice...not a necessity. It's still all about the timing. More complex movements require more complex timing, with no more favorable outcome. KISS is the Teacher! That said, JS plays an excellent game, regardless of what game he plays.

Scott Lee
http://poolknowledge.com

CJ Wiley said:
There's nothing wrong with the elbow dropping.
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Good mechanics for 14.1. In fact,he reminds me of many of the old masters of 14.1. But many of them couldn't make the transition to 9-Ball due to their compact stroking methods and tendency towards punching the ball.

I found a 9-Ball match of his on YouTube. He looked ok in the match but did have some trouble with certain big shots. Don't know if that was just that one match or if that's due to his style of play. I'm sure he wins plenty, but I think his stroke is more suited to 14.1.
 
FranCrimi said:
Good mechanics for 14.1. In fact,he reminds me of many of the old masters of 14.1. But many of them couldn't make the transition to 9-Ball due to their compact stroking methods and tendency towards punching the ball.

I found a 9-Ball match of his on YouTube. He looked ok in the match but did have some trouble with certain big shots. Don't know if that was just that one match or if that's due to his style of play. I'm sure he wins plenty, but I think his stroke is more suited to 14.1.
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He is a U.S. open 9-ball champion also.
 
Scott Lee said:
Nothing, other than making the game far more difficult to learn, for the average player. Elbow drop is a choice...not a necessity. It's still all about the timing. More complex movements require more complex timing, with no more favorable outcome. KISS is the Teacher! That said, JS plays an excellent game, regardless of what game he plays.

Scott Lee
http://poolknowledge.com
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I understood that to keep the cue on a level plane on delivery then a certain amount of elbow drop (1 to 2 inches) was necessary, on power shots.

Normal shot 5 to 6 inches follow through, power shots 8 inches and real power 9 inches. To accelerate through the ball keeping a level plane is essential?
 
DGilb147 said:
I understood that to keep the cue on a level plane on delivery then a certain amount of elbow drop (1 to 2 inches) was necessary, on power shots.

Normal shot 5 to 6 inches follow through, power shots 8 inches and real power 9 inches. To accelerate through the ball keeping a level plane is essential?
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I agree. BUT once the cue ball leaves the cue tip(1/1,000 of a second) level means nothing.

randyg
 
randyg said:
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I agree. BUT once the cue ball leaves the cue tip(1/1,000 of a second) level means nothing.

randyg
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Good point but difficult to judge the optimum acceleration when playing the shot.

Safer to go through level as possible?
 
A pendulum stroke delivers the cuetip accurately on the CB with a level cue at contact. That's all that's necessary. Acceleration is about keeping a relaxed biceps muscle, and a relaxed cradle on the cuestick.

Scott Lee
http://poolknowledge.com

DGilb147 said:
Good point but difficult to judge the optimum acceleration when playing the shot.

Safer to go through level as possible?
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Scott Lee said:
A pendulum stroke delivers the cuetip accurately on the CB with a level cue at contact. That's all that's necessary. Acceleration is about keeping a relaxed biceps muscle, and a relaxed cradle on the cuestick.

Scott Lee
http://poolknowledge.com
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I am not clear would a pendulum stroke limit your follow through on power shots?

Understand that a pendulum stroke is best for normal medium pace strokes.

So would you discourage any elbow drop no matter the circumstances?
 
DGilb147 said:
I am not clear would a pendulum stroke limit your follow through on power shots?

Understand that a pendulum stroke is best for normal medium pace strokes.

So would you discourage any elbow drop no matter the circumstances?
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The last time this discussion came up people got themselves banned. :nono:
 
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