Cue Review - Doug Patrick

DeepBanks

AzB Silver Member
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I've been wanting a sneaky Pete and decided to purchase one about a month ago . . . I spied a Doug Patrick built cue here on the AZ Sale Forum and decided to buy it - I just received it last Friday. I don't post here that often, let alone write cue reviews, but after playing with this thing for two days I felt compelled to share my opinion.

This is a 19.5 oz. full splice cue made from a AAAA piece of cocobola and maple . . . 19.5 oz. with LBM ferrules, radial pin and phenolic joint. Very simple ringwork on the shafts, joint and butt with no wrap. The build quality and finish are exceptional and flawless.

I played with it a little on Friday night . . . whoa! After two hours playing with it on Saturday I decided to write something up. This is the best hitting cue I've EVER tried and/or owned - PERIOD. I've owned/played with Joss & McDermott for 25+ years, and gotten my hands on a whole bunch of the great builders cues - hit Southwest, Richard Black, Samsara, Paul Mottey, etc. This Patrick hits as well, if not better than ANY other cue I've ever tried! I mean, I've never written a cue review before, but this thing has impressed me that much!

The cue has a firm, clean hit - you know exactly where you contacted the cue ball, perfect feedback and control - overall it's incredibly accurate. The shafts exhibit almost NO deflection! I'm old school and like traditional wood shafts; I believe a good piece of shaft wood will perform comparably with most of the newest "low deflection" shafts. The Patrick built shafts do just that, but without the guesswork and "adjustments" you have to make with some of the newer shaft technology. (i.e. Z shafts, etc.)

I can't describe what else I'd want out of a cue that this thing doesn't deliver . . . the cue ball goes exactly where you aim it, english is applied with minimal to no deflection, it has crisp responsive feedback, and the balance is just incredible. I've bought and hit a LOT of cues looking for that magic feel of a great one piece cue . . . this Patrick is as good as it gets . . . I recommend you get your hands on one - hit it and you'll see what I mean.

I ordered an extra shaft for this cue, and it gave me the opportunity to talk to Mr. Patrick via phone. I have no relationship with him, and posted this to let those of you who search for a great playing cue that you need to be aware of his product. He's very professional, and told me that his sole objective is to make cues that are appreciated by players. I hope this post can bring some awareness to his superior work and service . . . Thanks for building me such a great cue Doug!

Pics are below . . .
 
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patrickcues

AzB Silver Member
Silver Member
Thank you Alan for writing a great review!!
Alan is a very good guy to do business with!!!!

Here is links to his cue.
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DeepBanks

AzB Silver Member
Silver Member
She's a beauty!

Thanks again Doug . . . couldn't have asked for more . . . no more production cues for me.
 

DeepBanks

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Silver Member
Psssssstttttt!

classiccues said:
pssst..come here....

In the cue section.. there is a whole section for... come a little closer... CUE REVIEWS...

JV :D


Gotcha dude . . . BTW . . . don't let me ever catch you talking 'bout something you bought in the "Wanted/For Sale" section on this forum . . . and bothered to say how it was after you bought it . . . 'cause that might be . . . .pssssst . . . REALLY inappropriate . . . and a serious violation of the rules . . .

You just go have a great day . . . and I'll try not to bother you anymore. FO
 

21Gambler

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classiccues said:
pssst..come here....

In the cue section.. there is a whole section for... come a little closer... CUE REVIEWS...

JV :D


pssst JV come here

was it not you that posted this in the wanted for sale section, maybe the pot should not be telling the kettle where to post reviews at.


classiccues said:
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GTF Cases... a review
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Well well well, what do I have here....

A brandy new GTF case for review....

Let me start off by saying, anyone who knows RSB knows that John Barton and I have had our differences. So by no means am I schilling for his case design. In fact I probably hoped I could find a lot wrong so I could tell him he can't even copy worth damn.. but that is not the case, no pun intended.

I have a smooth leather 1 x 2 GTF case. So let me begin my review...

Presentation is very nice.. the bag it came in is very nice. A product tag, a key ring with key and swatch of leather. I have to say, this part is really well done. Grade A

Latch: Now everyone knows any latch John picks out is suspect. But this is a nice brushed brass tone latch that does the job. The latch also has definition, little extra accent on the ends. The key works, one revolution clockwise to lock, counter to unlock. So far so good after 12 times. The latch on mine is attached via screws so if I needed to I could remove the latch with minimal effort. I could say that they should be riveted. But lets face reality, on all these style of cases you can pry the latch off with no problem. Grade: A, if it starts failing D.

Leatherwork: The seam is very good, the ends are very good. In fact the ends are finished nicer than the Kelli I have and the Fellini. I will use it and see how it all stays together, but right now its very, very clean. Grade A

Tube work: Cap: It looks like its a three piece cap. The extruded tube, and a top insert, and a cap. The cap is probably molded and has a rim that allows it to sit flush in the top of the tube. *guessing*This is probably a better design than a glued in cap. Plus I would think it would double as the bottom assembly. Case is longer than my Fellini.
Liner: The plush fabric is better than the thinner fabric. BUT I think its too tight. I know JB likes to turn his cases over and not have his cue hit the floor. However, I store my cues in these tube cases the following way: Shafts, tip up, butt screw down. Why? Less chalk in the tubes. It's a squeeze getting my cue in and I don't know if anything bad is happening while I do this. The butt swells the end of the case and the top needed to be finagled on. I will say I believe an older cue with a big butt is not going to fit into this case. Grade: B

What I would change. Move away from the Fellini style label. Stamp the ends, bottom of the case, get rid of the white label, the Fellini tag is iconic.

Overall this case is a low A - strong B.

All in all, the case seems to do what it is supposed to. I will use it for a few weeks then update my report. I cannot fathom any issues with such a simplistic case design. I look forward to seeing the 2 x 4 at some point.

JV
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Hidy Ho

Missed 4 rail hanger!!!
Silver Member
21Gambler said:
pssst JV come here

was it not you that posted this in the wanted for sale section, maybe the pot should not be telling the kettle where to post reviews at.

To be fair, he posted that prior to creation of CUE REVIEW/DISCUSSION (?) section of the forum.
 

classiccues

Don't hashtag your broke friends
Silver Member
21Gambler said:
pssst JV come here

was it not you that posted this in the wanted for sale section, maybe the pot should not be telling the kettle where to post reviews at.

Yeah it was.. but Einstein you must also realize it was BEFORE there was a review section. The kettle ain't so black now.. is it..

JV
 

classiccues

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Silver Member
DeepBanks said:
Gotcha dude . . . BTW . . . don't let me ever catch you talking 'bout something you bought in the "Wanted/For Sale" section on this forum . . . and bothered to say how it was after you bought it . . . 'cause that might be . . . .pssssst . . . REALLY inappropriate . . . and a serious violation of the rules . . .

You just go have a great day . . . and I'll try not to bother you anymore. FO

I guess being from Alabamer' I should cut you a little slack, but since you needed to end your sentence with that little message, you can do the same. But keep in mind it's proper use of the forum that makes it enjoyable for everyone, not just YOU.

JV
 

DeepBanks

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Silver Member
Way down south in the land of Dixie . . .

classiccues said:
I guess being from Alabamer' I should cut you a little slack, but since you needed to end your sentence with that little message, you can do the same. But keep in mind it's proper use of the forum that makes it enjoyable for everyone, not just YOU.

JV

Your overblowin' this and showin' your butt . . . go troll someplace where you can add some value versus stirring up the pot . . .

Fly away little bird . . . fly, fly away.
 

classiccues

Don't hashtag your broke friends
Silver Member
DeepBanks said:
Your overblowin' this and showin' your butt . . . go troll someplace where you can add some value versus stirring up the pot . . .

Fly away little bird . . . fly, fly away.

See my first post was just an FYI.. you wanted to be a smart a$$. Your reply should have been, "oh ok.. no problem." You wanted to be the "butt", the next time you want to tell someone to "FO" when they are trying to show you the right way, expect them to reply in kind.

JV
 

21Gambler

AzB Silver Member
Silver Member
The little pot is confused

classiccues said:
Yeah it was.. but Einstein you must also realize it was BEFORE there was a review section. The kettle ain't so black now.. is it..

JV

Doesn't matter if it was before during after you still posted a review in the Wanted/For Sale section, you were not selling anything and nobody was buying anything period, and just so you know Einstein you would be the pot in that scenario, so the kettle would be just as black. I am just wondering is this the same POT that made all these post in the WANTED/FOR SALE section that had nothing to do with wanting or selling anything, just a question enquiring minds want to know.

Thanks have a great day all even you Joe

Sean

http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=85008

http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=81031

http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=78035

http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=66836

http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=65615

http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=61949

http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=62066

http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=61962

http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=61315
This one is my favorite, the first sentence says
I know this belongs in the cue talk section along with at least 10 other posts here but I want to throw this out here.

http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=56655

http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=56581

http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=53444

http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=51122

http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=46990

http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=43861

http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=42591

http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=41820

http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=38759

http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=36248

http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=34831

http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=29805

http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=28582

http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=28101

http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=27849

http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=22633

http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=16300

http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=14193

http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=12070

http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=11427

http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=11147

http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=10265

http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=9711

http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=7884

http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=6200
 

21Gambler

AzB Silver Member
Silver Member
DeepBanks said:
I've been wanting a sneaky Pete and decided to purchase one about a month ago . . . I spied a Doug Patrick built cue here on the AZ Sale Forum and decided to buy it - I just received it last Friday. I don't post here that often, let alone write cue reviews, but after playing with this thing for two days I felt compelled to share my opinion.

This is a 19.5 oz. full splice cue made from a AAAA piece of cocobola and maple . . . 19.5 oz. with LBM ferrules, radial pin and phenolic joint. Very simple ringwork on the shafts, joint and butt with no wrap. The build quality and finish are exceptional and flawless.

I played with it a little on Friday night . . . whoa! After two hours playing with it on Saturday I decided to write something up. This is the best hitting cue I've EVER tried and/or owned - PERIOD. I've owned/played with Joss & McDermott for 25+ years, and gotten my hands on a whole bunch of the great builders cues - hit Southwest, Richard Black, Samsara, Paul Mottey, etc. This Patrick hits as well, if not better than ANY other cue I've ever tried! I mean, I've never written a cue review before, but this thing has impressed me that much!

The cue has a firm, clean hit - you know exactly where you contacted the cue ball, perfect feedback and control - overall it's incredibly accurate. The shafts exhibit almost NO deflection! I'm old school and like traditional wood shafts; I believe a good piece of shaft wood will perform comparably with most of the newest "low deflection" shafts. The Patrick built shafts do just that, but without the guesswork and "adjustments" you have to make with some of the newer shaft technology. (i.e. Z shafts, etc.)

I can't describe what else I'd want out of a cue that this thing doesn't deliver . . . the cue ball goes exactly where you aim it, english is applied with minimal to no deflection, it has crisp responsive feedback, and the balance is just incredible. I've bought and hit a LOT of cues looking for that magic feel of a great one piece cue . . . this Patrick is as good as it gets . . . I recommend you get your hands on one - hit it and you'll see what I mean.

I ordered an extra shaft for this cue, and it gave me the opportunity to talk to Mr. Patrick via phone. I have no relationship with him, and posted this to let those of you who search for a great playing cue that you need to be aware of his product. He's very professional, and told me that his sole objective is to make cues that are appreciated by players. I hope this post can bring some awareness to his superior work and service . . . Thanks for building me such a great cue Doug!

Pics are below . . .

Back to the question at hand..

Nice review, I am sure Doug and fellow cue builders are glad you are taking time out of your schedule to write such a review, I for one Thank You, as reviews like this help people that have no clue who a particular cue maker is get an idea of the product they supply. Keep up the good work. Joe nothing personal, as I have never met you and I'm sure you are a nice guy and meant well, but maybe a PM would have been a better way to go then trying to make someone look bad in public that is doing the pool community in general a service, I think more people should be doing this. Did you ever think maybe just maybe he did not know of this new cue review section, I for one did not know about it. I have hit with several of Doug's cues and to say they play awesome would be an understatement, I have several cues being built by Doug and I am sure I will have several more built.

Take care all have a great day

Sean
 

classiccues

Don't hashtag your broke friends
Silver Member
21Gambler said:
Doesn't matter if it was before during after you still posted a review in the Wanted/For Sale section, you were not selling anything and nobody was buying anything period, and just so you know Einstein you would be the pot in that scenario, so the kettle would be just as black. I am just wondering is this the same POT that made all these post in the WANTED/FOR SALE section that had nothing to do with wanting or selling anything, just a question enquiring minds want to know.

Thanks have a great day all even you Joe

Sean

http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=85008

http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=81031

http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=78035

http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=66836

http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=65615

http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=61949

http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=62066

http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=61962

http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=61315
This one is my favorite, the first sentence says
I know this belongs in the cue talk section along with at least 10 other posts here but I want to throw this out here.

http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=56655

http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=56581

http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=53444

http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=51122

http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=46990

http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=43861

http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=42591

http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=41820

http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=38759

http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=36248

http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=34831

http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=29805

http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=28582

http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=28101

http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=27849

http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=22633

http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=16300

http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=14193

http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=12070

http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=11427

http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=11147

http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=10265

http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=9711

http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=7884

http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=6200

You must have some severe reading comprehension issues. Most of them absolutely belong here. Some were started so that threads like this didn't bog down the For Sale Section. That includes your favorite while we were lobbying for the other section. But I guess since you are relatively new, you wouldn't know that and again are speaking out of the wrong side of your body. If you are really going to waste your time looking for stuff like this, you really need RIP, if they don't have that in your area, maybe a secondary adult school will suffice.

JV
 

Zims Rack

Promoting the Cueing Arts
Silver Member
Moderators: Can you move this thread to the "Cue Review" section?

The bickering has kind of taken away from the intent of the original post. There are many posts on this forum that should have been posted elsewhere, but people get excited and just start typing.

I second the original post, Doug does make a fine cue.

Zim
 
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