Break Stats -- 2025 Florida Open (9-Ball), August 2025

32% seems higher than normal for Match room events on 4" pockets right? Anecdotally, I feel like I heard about longer packages than usual during this tournament and the tables looked more generous based on the eye test. If that's true, I wonder what was different this time around.

i would argue that the selection for the tv table in this SE played and broke at a very high level. tables looked no different in difficulty, if anything they seemed slower.

32% is a good deal higher than US opens when it still had 4.5" pockets. the fields have become tougher, the level has risen, but i still think this was an anomaly.

MR needs to start doing TPA stats..

If the lag is a skill shot, there's a better way

Side note: I recently brought it to my league operators attention that some players are deliberately stalling to gain an advantage. Waiting until the opponents ball is almost stopped to strike theirs. Has happened to me twice. First time I almost froze it so it didn't matter, second time though I got it to maybe the middle of the rack depth wise and the guy easily beat me. I didn't say anything at the time because I don't like to argue during matches unless it's a BIG deal cuz all it does is get in MY head.
actually the lag has to be repeated if that happens
from the WPA rules
pertinient area bolded by me
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1.2 Lagging to Determine Order of Play
The lag is the first shot of the match and determines order of play. The player who wins the lag chooses who will shoot first.
The referee will place a ball on each side of the table behind the head string and near the headstring. The players will shoot at about the same time to make each ball contact the footcushion with the goal of returning the ball closer to the head cushion than the opponent.
A lag shot is bad and cannot win if the shooter’s ball a) crosses the long string;(b) contacts the foot cushion other than once;(c) is pocketed or driven off the table;(d) touches the side cushion; or(e) the ball rests within the corner pocket and past the nose of the head cushion.In addition, a lag will be bad if any non-object-ball foul occurs other than 6.9 Balls StillMoving.

The players will lag again if a) a player’s ball is struck after the other ball has touched the foot cushion;(b) the referee cannot determine which ball has stopped closer to the head cushion; or(c) both lags are bad.

If the lag is a skill shot, there's a better way

Instead of lagging twice across the table. The lag could be one table length, closest to rail by the racking area.

1. This is a more natural length and comes up often in real games.

2. This eliminates the luck factor of hitting the rail, every rail reacts differently and it's a bit of a guessing game. Not to mention dead or hot spots

3. Less chance of table roll affecting the lag result. Sometimes you'll get a scratch or a longer path

All of these reduce luck and makes the lag shot a better measure of speed control and skill
Why? That's a pretty soft shot. A lot of in game shots are played around lag speed, more so than just a table length roll.

Downtown Chicago Poolhalls

Hello, been a while. I will be attending a conference in downtown Chicago September 11th to the 16th but sounds like the only free night I will have is September 11th. Was looking at fairly close pool halls and saw City Pool Hall and G-Cue Billiards. Also, The Game Room. Looking for any thoughts on them. I will be Ubering so not looking for a half hour car ride to the suburbs.

Thanks for the input!
-Todd

If the lag is a skill shot, there's a better way

Lagging is a skill. It is variable just like any other skill in the game. Nobody strikes it exactly the same every time for any shot including the lag. Then you have early match jitters etc etc. Everyone comes to the table for the lag in a slightly different headspace so there will always be variation from one lag to another. It's as fine a way as any to start a match and there's nothing wrong with it.

Side note: I recently brought it to my league operators attention that some players are deliberately stalling to gain an advantage. Waiting until the opponents ball is almost stopped to strike theirs. Has happened to me twice. First time I almost froze it so it didn't matter, second time though I got it to maybe the middle of the rack depth wise and the guy easily beat me. I didn't say anything at the time because I don't like to argue during matches unless it's a BIG deal cuz all it does is get in MY head.
Does seeing your opponents results beforehand affect how you play your lag? You only have 2 choices, hit it harder or hit it softer than you opponent. I don't base my lag on how my opponent performed, if it were that easy why not just stick it to the rail every time?? I try to get the QB as close to the rail as possible regardless of how my opponent performed.

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