HawaiianEye said:

The coring was done before the cue was put together.

I have two Jackpots and seven interchangeable shafts for them.

They play lights out.

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Poolhalljunkie said:

Because its a small claims case, Texas has 150 mile limit on Serving a Subpoena, I and others have attempted to deal with the estate attorney, probate has not been filed even after offer to assist with that, so this case is my only recourse to recover my property. I considered Joe a Friend I have bought and sold several cues through Joe over the last 30 years, never had any problems. Again not looking to bash Joe or the family just attempting to recover my two cues that were not sold by him before his passing.

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DrCue'sProtege said:

Will this place have a toilet?

Or will the yard out the back door suffice?

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something_pool said:

"Best" is not the same as "greatest." Fedor is probably already a "better" player than Efren was -- that's the nature of progress in every sport; the younger players learn from the older ones and stand on the shoulders of giants. But that's not the same thing as being a "greater" player: context matters, and access to information also matters. Inventing new knowledge is harder than learning that same knowledge.

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something_pool said:

The first DCC was in 1999, when Efren was 44 years old.

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sjm said:

I'd say that if you don't think Gorst is already on the short list of the best ever all-around players like Lassiter, Varner, Reyes, SVB or Pagulayan, you overlook just how special Gorst is. I have been around pro pool long enough to have watched all of them, and Fedor is already deserving of inclusion in serious all-around GOAT conversations.

Much in the way that Ronnie Allen did in the 1970s, Fedor has helped bring one pocket to a level previously unseen. He is also already among the best that ever played bank pool and his rotation pool skills are, undeniably, super-elite.

Right now, we are watching the best cueists that ever screwed a cue together. It is not sacrilegious to suggest that, even as all-an around player, Fedor has a chance to be remembered as having surpassed Efren as an all-around player. Of course, he hasn't done it yet, and maybe he never will, but keep an eye out.

However it plays out it should be enjoyable to see how it develops.

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jay helfert said:

Efren was the dominent One Pocket player since the early 90's and playing his best 9-Ball then too. Not sure when he started competing at DCC but he certainly had the opportunity years earlier than 2003 or even 1999 for that matter.

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something_pool said:

I never said Gorst wasn't a great player. I said that MOT titles don't determine that. You can't just look at Reyes' 5 MOT titles and say that that's the benchmark for equaling his greatness as a player. It would be like saying Buddy Hall wasn't one of the all time greats because he doesn't have a world championship -- that misses that there was no world championship until he was already well past his prime.

"Best" is not the same as "greatest." Fedor is probably already a "better" player than Efren was -- that's the nature of progress in every sport; the younger players learn from the older ones and stand on the shoulders of giants. But that's not the same thing as being a "greater" player: context matters, and access to information also matters. Inventing new knowledge is harder than learning that same knowledge.

I personally don't think that Fedor (or anyone) has revolutionized the game in the way that Efren has, but that's not to say that it's impossible.

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something_pool said:

I don't think it's arguable that Efren's prime was after he turned 44 years old. Yes, Efren won lots of events in 2003-10, but many of those events didn't exist or didn't have strong international fields before that time period. So all this shows is that the opportunities for titles increased as Efren got older, and that he had extremely good longevity, not that he was in his prime in his late 40s and 50s.

It's true that Efren learned 1p and banks later in life, but that's also because these were more niche games, played mostly by Americans, when Efren was younger. If Efren had learned these games when he was younger, he would have dominated then too.

This is why I don't think it makes much sense to compare Efren's greatness as an all-around player to today's players by looking at DCC MOT awards: players like Fedor, today, grew up in an era where all the top players were playing every game, and had tournaments like the DCC to compete at for their whole careers. Efren grew up in an era where top international players didn't compete in 1p or banks, and the DCC didn't even exist. If it had existed when Efren was 20, and there was prize money to be won, can anyone really imagine he wouldn't have at least a few more MOT titles?

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sjm said:

I'd say that if you don't think Gorst is already on the short list of the best ever all-around players like Lassiter, Varner, Reyes, SVB or Pagulayan, you overlook just how special Gorst is. I have been around pro pool long enough to have watched all of them, and Fedor is already deserving of inclusion in serious all-around GOAT conversations.

Much in the way that Ronnie Allen did in the 1970s, Fedor has helped bring one pocket to a level previously unseen. He is also already among the best that ever played bank pool and his rotation pool skills are, undeniably, super-elite.

Right now, we are watching the best cueists that ever screwed a cue together. It is not sacrilegious to suggest that, even as all-an around player, Fedor has a chance to be remembered as having surpassed Efren as an all-around player. Of course, he hasn't done it yet, and maybe he never will, but keep an eye out.

However it plays out it should be enjoyable to see how it develops.

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sjm said:

The evidence suggests otherwise. SVB skipped each of the first two WNT events of 2026, (European Open, UK Open) but he won the third (Florida Open) and has every chance to win the fourth (Arizona Open) later today.

Last month, SVB played a long race against Fedor and was beaten convincingly. Despite a slow start at the majors this year, there's little evidence that Fedor has slipped much at all. Fedor may work as hard at his craft as anyone we've ever seen, and you can be sure he's not letting a brief hiatus in competition interrupt his always ambitious practice routine.

Emily knows that for the Mosconi to be competitive at all, Fedor must be on Team USA. I'm sure Fedor realizes it, too.

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vintagecollectibles831 said:

I was wrong, but he was really very mean, and very nasty towards me. Some of you guys tend to be really nasty to me at times, and it really gets under my skin. Do you even see how nasty you are at times? I have mental problems. I just can't hand it, and laugh it off, or whatever.

Some of you guys do not seem like the type that would ever admit when you are wrong about anything that you say. Some guys here just seem like total narcissists.

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