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BarenbruggeCues said:

Hard to say without holding something like this in hand.
From the pictures.....to me, it appears to be more than just an adhesive issue that has released all of the point pieces.
The good news is the adhesive wasn't very good which allowed the 4 points to release like they did, in one piece.
It appears that there was significant side pressure at the A that has caused the damage.
I believe it will entail a little more than just finding the correct adhesive to be used.
Fun project if you can find a qualified repair tech willing to put humpty dumpty back together again!

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Yes, of course it is more than finding the right adhesive. It does require expert repair.

Yes, it was side pressure.

I can't tell if the A joint pin bent, of course it needs to be inspected in a lathe.

sjm said:

This was a major miscalculation and, as you suggest, single location made this result even less likely.

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I wonder how far fetched the idea is to think someone could come up with a Truck (or maybe two) with a couple tables and production equipment that could be set up in many different locations across the country.....Many hotels across the country have conference rooms that I would think could be converted into a studio for some form of team format production........perhaps even have "limited" seating bleachers to create that sense of urgency to get your ticket....of course at a bit higher price.

OR.....reality TV seems to be popular.......and.........Pool players always seem to bring drama.....so

How about a reality series....a survivor event of sorts....Throw them all in a house for a few weeks and come up with a series of events to eliminate them one by one.....Can you imagine Earl in a house with the younger generation of players and some of the side drama in the house between elimination events.......Joe Rogan needs a new reality TV series....and he is more than capable to handle the fights between players.......get him to be the moderator.

Or maybe instead of the Food Truck Race....Have a hustler race where players have to go city to city and try and hustle up some green....Don't make the green and you get eliminated.

It’s the shot where you lay the stick on the table, with the tip slightly under the curve of the CB. No bridge or stroke hand on the stick. Then you walk around to the tip end of the stick, and lift the tip upwards, and the stick pivots on its butt cap still resting on the table. The tip barely grazes the CB. There is also a variation where you can pivot sideways instead of upwards.

You all know the shot. It’s been banned at least 25 years.

I’m trying to find it in print.

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skogstokig said:

so not rotation pool then?

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Its a fun game between two players. When you first arrive at the table your allowed to shoot any ball to get shape for the next lowest ball then run out like normal.
You might even have to shoot the nine in first to get shape for the one ball, nine would of course respot.

Hard to say without holding something like this in hand.
From the pictures.....to me, it appears to be more than just an adhesive issue that has released all of the point pieces.
The good news is the adhesive wasn't very good which allowed the 4 points to release like they did, in one piece.
It appears that there was significant side pressure at the A that has caused the damage.
I believe it will entail a little more than just finding the correct adhesive to be used.
Fun project if you can find a qualified repair tech willing to put humpty dumpty back together again!

Do you feel it's worth it would be my first question.

nine_ball6970 said:

There is a video on youtube of bergman breaking and running 18 in a row on bar table with magic rack during an action match. I wouldnt bet against them putting up a 3 pack. If a ball is wired and they can play shape on the one, most top pros are going to break and run more often than not on a table with 4.5" pockets.

The Texas Open this year was one on spot with 3 point rule. I watched the match but not closely enough between Bader Al Awadhi and Brian Sanders. I heard Brian missed a ball in the first game and never stepped to table again losing 9-0. It was streamed on table 3. I tried to find it after the fact but could not.

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All well and good at the Texas Open, but that's not the highest level of play. As you note, on 4 1/2" pockets, it's a different, and frankly, much easier game.

As noted in another thread, combining the stats at the last two WNT majors (Arizona Open, US Open 9ball), per At Large stats, the breaker won 234 racks out of 394 racks played, or 59% of the racks played. The breaker's advantage in today's WNT nine ball is really not that great and any suggestion that players are spending many racks at a time in the chair does not hold up to scrutiny.

Again, per At Large stats at the recent US Open 9ball, at least one safety was played in 48% of the racks. There's a lot of back and forth in WNT play today, and it is because the break (nine of the spot with narrow break box) is difficult, not easy. In the 198 racks At Large tracked, only twice did a player run more than a three pack. Yes, the players can still make the one in the side, but they are finding shape on the two ball far less often than they did before Matchroom went to 4" pockets with the current breaking rules.

Mensabum said:

Maybe there's a diamond hiding amongst all that low end stuff. Might be worth keeping one eye peeled.

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I have never seen one, the one posted seems to be one of the better ones.

But never stop looking, you are right, it is possible.

Augustine Szamboti Jr said:

Not exactly. Those kind words belong to my Dad and Brother. I have alot of memories of my Father making blanks for Palmer, and my brother and I helping him. The drive up to Elizabeth, NJ was a good time with my Dad. I would like to find one of those Palmers, if possible one from 1976. My Father made a black/red/blue/white prong combination for the Bicentennial.

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Many of us know those Bicentennial palmers well. They are a treasure. Finding one is the hard part.

Honestly, your name will get attention, but I am sure you know that. Are you actively searching for such a Palmer or just shaking the bushes?

If you are actively searching, I am sure your family contacts are a big advantage, but showing up here and making some contacts is a great idea. Lots of people with lots of connections here.

I do hope you hang around and get involved in the community.

As for the royalty quip...you grew up around all that. You were involved. Even if you didn't go that way as an adult, you are part of that family and had your eyes, ears, and hands in some of the work, so that's a royal bloodline. Things like the drive up to NJ would be incredible stories to us.

If you ever care to share any stories I know the community would be all ears. A lot of us would trade a good cue to be in that car for a ride to NJ with your family. And if we ever get the historical facts wrong, we really want corrected.


And if you get tired of people asking about your dad and brother, trust me, I understand. I for one would be interested to know you for who you are.

Again, welcome to the forum.


Here is a thread about the Bicentennial cues with some pictures if you scroll down. LINK Another cue with the RWB blank: LINK

An unknown possible “Meucci” piloted joint Gambler was on eBay yesterday with a Canadian seller - price was 300 Canadian plus unknown tariff add-on - I see that it either sold or was removed from sale

GideonF said:

I don’t understand your thought here. The skid is caused by chalk on the CB (or OB) not on the tip. I guess if you have tons of excess chalk on the tip you might get “extra” thick chalk marks - is that your point?

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That is exactly my point. Some what remote, but it could cause a skid.