2025 Grand Averages for World Championship and World Cups

could someone send me a PM to explain this please
no reason to side track this thread
The umb is one billiards organization and the pba is another.

Each prohibits it's players from competing in the other's events.

Sayginer went to pba and is now back with umb.

Sanchez is now with pba and is not playing umb events.

The scoring list shared here is solely umb participants.

Bergman will play WNT events in 2026

So you're saying a 600 FR who strictly only plays on 7ft tables is the same speed as a true 600 FR who strictly plays on 9ft tables?

I have lost way more to weaker players than me on a barbox than I have ever lost to weaker players on a 9ft Diamond.

It is an equalizer.

A 550 who got their robustness up by only playing 7ft tournaments with 5" pockets, will absolutely not perform like a 550 on a 9ft table with 4.5" pockets. But since these stats don't get tracked, we will never know.

If you disagree then you've probably played on BB a majority of your pool life and feel attacked for some reason.

I've seen tons of 500-600 players shoot great on 7ft'ers playing 8ball race to 3 all their life and dog their brains out on the 9ft playing 9ball. Maybe I'm blind or I imagined that.

you'll get the infallibility retort from mike, but i think you're right. consider this: it's a slightly different game, because the size is a differentiator. now add another differentiator, say rounded pockets, and you have english barboxes. add them into the system. is it the rating still true between someone playing all 8b on english barboxes and someone playing all 9ft and rotation? why not add chinese tables too? heyball. i don't buy the argument, but if it were true, adding these slightly different tables and games shouldnt matter. but i think every differentiator matters, although not radically.

Custom and High End Cues on the Decline?

The high-end custom cue market is alive and well. It has always been a niche market, and it has definitely changed some over that last handful of years with the recent popularity of CF shafts. I suspect it will change some more before it’s all said and done.

Change or go extinct, and all of us involved with the ICCS now don’t want to see that latter option come to be, lol.

A lot of good things happened at our Chattanooga show recently and we hope to implement some new things these next few years to help grow collecting and introduce custom cues to the younger generation of players and fans.

Stay tuned for our next show in Sept ‘27 in Savannah GA. It will be by far the biggest and boldest endeavor yet for the International Cue Collectors Show!!!!!
who's cues are in pic 2 and who is the cuemaker in pic 4?

Bergman will play WNT events in 2026

I just watched parts of the above match. A lot to take in here. Neither player is particularly impressive and would be big underdogs to any good player. Believe it or not Jeremy has more upside to his game. He looks like a guy with a job and family that also likes to play pool. If he could devote himself to the game full time he might be an 800 level player. But I doubt that's what his goal is. He's a two hour a day player who can beat most of the local players where he lives. You tell me if I'm wrong. I like the way he comfortably got out in the last rack with no fuss and no strain, and no wasted motion!

As for Tyler, he looks stiff and uncomfortable most of the time, with no flow to his game. It's like he's trying to do everything by the book and must keep reminding himself what to do on each shot. If you're in your head too much you will never be a top player, plain and simple. The best pool pool is played almost unconsciously. He has an inner intensity that only creates more pressure for himself on every shot. He spends way too much time studying obvious shots, where we (and he) know what he's going to do within seconds, and yet he walks around looking at this simple shot from every angle. Weak sauce I'm afraid. The last rack is case in point. A very simple position shot from the two to the three ball and he studies it for about a minute??? And then he bunts the cue ball and leaves himself a full diamond short on position. He does make the three but shoots into nowhere with the cue ball and now has to play safe on the four. Match over after that.

Tyler needs a mental coach.
Your observations are on point, very astute although kinder than I would be regarding Tyler. Tyler reminds me of a player that turned into a coach, a coach he’s spent some time with, Mark Wilson.

Mark, as you know, once played pro pool for a short period of time, emphasis on the word played as he never won a damn thing, for the same reason Tyler never does, lack of heart. He played slow, unless he had absolute perfect position, he’d look to duck and play a safety. I saw him shoot over .900 in a match once and his opponent shot a lower percentage and won the match.

Some guys, while through hard work and dedication actually develop a skill set to where they have all the tools to play at an elite level, but they lack heart, they have a ten cent head and never reach their full potential. Tyler doesn’t need a mental coach, he needs a heart transplant. Or he could do what he’ll eventually do, just become an instructor. Some guys just can’t compete, they just don’t have it in them.

Thoughts ... Russian Kenny is out of prision

I've played Kenny a couple times in Tournaments, once in a finals match.
I came up through the one loss side.
I lost 7-3, nine ball.
Nobody runs a Calcutta like Kenny.
He has always been completely respectful with me.
He's a very focused person and trust me, he's very smart.
He's made bad choices.
Hopefully he turns it around.
Hopefully he's learned the "cost of doing bad business," even for what he perceived as the "right" reasons. He's been given a second chance to choose a "different" path. With any luck, and a little "wisdom," he will truly view his life/options through a different lens.
Don't know him personally, but I wish him luck on the journey. Time will tell. If he's learned anything, he will fade the noise, and let his actions do the talking...

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