maha said:

me. at any game for any amount, if i like the bet, and feel i have the best of it.

anyone that bets any other way is a fool. and a fool and his money will soon part as the accurate saying goes.

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Both are made for gambling.

My grandpa taught me to gamble at both golf and pool when I was 10.

Only pennies and nickels, but it was a lesson well learned...

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middleofnowhere said:

To paraphrase what you said. I think he knew it was a foul and hoped he got away with it. Let's be honest here, the ref just was not in the right position to make a definitive call.

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I think it's just as likely that he hoped the ref would make the call, which is why he gave her time to do so. I don't have a problem with how Yapp reacted here. He should not be expected to referee the match when someone is there to do so. No other athlete, in any other refereed sport is expected to penalize themselves.

middleofnowhere said:

That's why when available you have replay. To be honest, at least from many viewers watching. Regardless of the path of the cue ball, it actually looked like a bad hit visually. Just watching from home my wife and I both yelled out that was a bad hit at the same time.

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me. at any game for any amount, if i like the bet, and feel i have the best of it.

anyone that bets any other way is a fool. and a fool and his money will soon part as the accurate saying goes.

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so how are the ref. supposed to determine good hits or not good hits.

by what they see and ascertain from what they see. or the total of what happened.

if its the total of what happened, how is that determined.

does the ref. go by how the cueball reacts after the shot, or the sound the shot made, or by some personal feeling on what should it be.?
how can we give the ref. that power.

what if the cueball hit a piece of chalk and rolled certain way that wasn't kosher to the shot? who could see that.

too many variables to give the ref. the right to call based on his assumptions. or so called knowledge of how cueballs react.

if you want to have perfect calls then you need to have the opponent call for a camera before the shot.
if he chose not to, then he takes whatever the ref. decides and lives with it.

in this case the opponent said nothing so he lives with the decision. which was correct from what the ref. saw of the hit.

but incorrect/wrong, according to physics of the way a cue ball will always react in that particular case.

if you want highly trained ref's. you are going to have to pay them more as well and have lowered prize pools.