on the old tables without air conditioning. many of the old time players would beat all but a small hand full of the best now.
but the question would be would the best now be able to beat the best then with the old rules and equipment.
they would have a lot of adjusting to do.

Mensabum said:

I don't want to hear anything about taper wobble or whatever fun phrase they've come up with to describe a crooked shaft nowadays. If it doesn't roll flat or spin smooth on rollers, I don't want it.
Played too many years with junk cues in bars. No Mo.
Picky like that.

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looks like something billy might have made around 1970 or some before when he was experimenting on things.
just doesnt look like his rubber on the bottom then.

ShootingArts said:

Sealers I have dealt with don't penetrate very deep. I consider them a primer for whatever finish you are putting on the shaft. Stabilizers completely saturate the wood.

This is what I have found with products I have used, not the be all end all. Sealers go in from the sides of the shaft, stabilizers go in mostly from the ends traveling through end grain.

I like the esthetics of wood but I have long thought we needed something better for shafts. Gonna have to design cue butts to look better with black shafts but that shouldn't be hard.

Hu

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Vacuum treatment maybe?

vintagecollectibles831 said:

The thing about Fargo, is that you could just quit competing forever, and your Fargo will stay exactly the same as it was the last time you competed, in a Fargo rate tournament.

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Reminds me of peak reading meters. They stick at the high number and only budge for a higher number.

But whatever the rating, isn't that a function of the group average? The bell curve?

Chili Palmer said:

In my late teens/early 20's I was a petroleum relocation expert. I worked at a gas station

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One of my brother-in-laws calls himself an aggregate relocation specialist; hauls limestone and gravel.

I asked, “so what were you when it was slow and you were hauling chickenshit for that farmer, the 25 ton turdbucket?”

I always know when he doesn’t have a good comeback when I hear, “shut up stupid.”

middleofnowhere said:

I'll tell you a funny story about dipping. I went to a plumbing store to have a dipping pipe made up with a screw on cap. It was taking a long time. I later discovered they were stalling keeping me there.

What I was ordering was too close to a pipe bomb and they called the cops. I just had to answer some questions and they let me go.

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We coulda been partners in crime! I needed some very heavy wall high grade steel tubing to make the front a-plates for my race car out of. I got confused with the measurements I needed for OD and ID and ordered twice the wall thickness I needed! They started questioning me hot and heavy because I seemed to be very close to rifle barrel dimensions!

I needed some stout stuff but it had to let me thread the interior and then screw 3/4" spherical rod ends in. Double the wall thickness and I was closer to a 3/8" hole and they do make a handful of rifles in .375 caliber!

They got over it when I realized what I was ordering wasn't what I wanted anyway but with long hair and a beard I was getting a lot of side eye for awhile.(grin)

Chili Palmer said:

I believe it, I have built quite a few cutting boards, it's amazing how much mineral oil an 18" x 24" cutting board will soak up, sometimes it would take 24 hours. That HAS to have an affect on shaft weight at some point?

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Sealers I have dealt with don't penetrate very deep. I consider them a primer for whatever finish you are putting on the shaft. Stabilizers completely saturate the wood.

This is what I have found with products I have used, not the be all end all. Sealers go in from the sides of the shaft, stabilizers go in mostly from the ends traveling through end grain.

I like the esthetics of wood but I have long thought we needed something better for shafts. Gonna have to design cue butts to look better with black shafts but that shouldn't be hard.

Hu

straightline said:

Isn't Fargo self scaling?

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The thing about Fargo, is that you could just quit competing forever, and your Fargo will stay exactly the same as it was the last time you competed, in a Fargo rate tournament.

Chili Palmer said:

That's a good question but I think it's apples and oranges, or the question needs to be more specific. Do I think the top players of today would beat the top players of yesteryear if you do a time warp and drop the top players from today into those times with the knowledge and equipment they have now, yes, definitely. But, had the top players of today been playing in that period then they would have the same knowledge of the game, equipment, practice routines, etc. If you look at some of the people you mention in Fargo, you'll see most of them are mid 700's and they're nowhere near their prime, if they were in their prime I have no doubt most of them would be low to mid 800's and therefore, competitive with today's top players.

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Yeah, even after probably over 50 years of playing, Strickland is still like a 770 Fargo, and way past his prime. I feel pretty stupid that I asked now.

Lol, I have wondered if the top players of today, had to not only have to go back to the 80's and 90's, but also were not able to bring their current cues with them, how well they would do on the old equipment, with the slow cloth, and non LD cues of those eras.

To NEVER trust anyone that won’t gamble.

this thread just reinforces the movement towards CF and composite materials.

Best Final i ever seen!
From start one player get little bad start and fell behind but this is epic battle to the end!
Commentators speak Korean but you can put subtitles on and choose English..