Bavafongoul said:

Bob……do you know the reason why pool balls are allowable to vary in weight up to 1/2 oz.?

If the cue ball actually does get lighter in weight over time from friction and becomes smaller
but the same isn’t true of object balls manifesting the same size reduction, I’d otherwise think
that the tolerances for object balls would be and really should be much tighter & closer in weight.

The maximum weight for a pool ball is 6 ozs. Since object balls and pool balls should be the same
weight, typically 167-169 grams, object balls shouldn’t be allowed to be vary in weight by 1/2 oz.

Is it because of the cost of replacing pool balls if the weight tolerances were tighter? The logical
reason is the higher cost of replacing pool balls that no longer meet the specs. Wouldn’t it be more
practical to use a weight variance of only 7 grams max. weight difference? Heck, if object ball weights
don’t suffer the same fate as cue balls, I’d make the max weight variance a max of 3.5 - 4 grams.

Replacing cue balls isn’t that expensive and it is not like a cue ball gets smaller in 6 months to a year
of play. In fact, how long ( hrs. of play) does it take for a cue ball to become smaller. How come this
isn’t an issue in 3 cushion where 2 cue balls are rolling all the time and traveling greater distances
on a pool cloth?

I am still startled that a cue ball will become smaller but I’m presuming that it takes a long time to happen.
Since it is a fact, I think the BCA should revisit the overly generous allowable difference in weight in pool
balls up to a 1/2 ounce. I do not understand the underlying reasons why this is allowable and hasn’t been
changed. Under the right conditions, it can affect a match’s outcome.

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Bob Jewett said:

A more precise way of demonstrating the size difference for a worn-down cue ball is to surround the cue ball with six object balls, in a ring. If you get five touching the cue ball (and each other), the sixth will leave a gap with the cue ball. If the cue ball is large, like maybe a new ball, the sixth object ball won't be able to complete the solid ring and will leave a gap.

In both cases, the size of the gap is three times the mismatch of the diameter of the cue ball to the object balls.

This technique can also detect a large/small object ball relative to the others. Is the one ball small compared to the stripes?

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hit full stride with the introduction of the second catalog. The designs were less reliant on the Titlist, instead featuring splices by Burton Spain, Gus Szamboti, and the Palmer shop. These are some of the highest quality and most beautiful Palmers ever made.

The new joint was highlighted. It featured a thicker collar and was made of polished nickle/silver. The buttcaps now measured 1 3/8" but most still did not come with a rubber bumper. The bumpers just plugged into a standard 5/8" hole, so they were easy to fit and were probably a good idea to add, since many of the cues that were used without a bumper experienced broken and chipped butt caps from traditional floor tapping.

The most popular first catalog cue designs were carried forward with some modifications. The popular Model 6 became the Model D. The Models 1 and 8 became A and B respectively. The 2 became the H , the 11 became the L, and the 10 became the G.

But the second catalog was all about the new designs. The Model C is a classic tribute to Herman Rambow. This was a retro cue and it was described as such in the Palmer brochure. The J was the classic reverse splice. The Model I had beautiful long points with what would become the traditional Szamboti splice, ebony prongs with veneers of ebony, orange, chartreuse, and natual.

The flagship cue, the model M or the "Palmer Supreme", is one of the most recognizable and famous cue designs ever made. The solid ebony cue features wavy lines of sandwiched veneers and over 30 pearl inlays. The M and the L are the only 2nd catalog Palmers that came with a rubber bumper.

Use the buttons below to view the 2nd catalog Cues.

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decent dennis said:

Ask him if he’s always had that hitch in his swing.

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vintagecollectibles831 said:

Yeah, I do not get why all bars have Valley's with sets of balls that appear to be 50 years old, lol. If only they at the very least replaced the cue ball maybe every 5 years, or what it gets worn out or damaged, that would help make the experience more enjoyable.

Sometimes, the cue ball does not even seem to roll straight. As if the magnet were not in the very center of the mud ball.

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fastone371 said:

Not at all what I am suggesting but one can only stare at the earth and sky for so long until its time to see something else. Being that its so sparsely populated I would guess the sights are few and far between but I could be wrong, I was wrong about Pennsylvania, I thought it would be downtrodden because of what we hear and see about Kensington Avenue but when driving thru I thought it was gorgeous. The only thing I thought strange about both Pennsylvania and Ohio is that they seem to like to build nice homes right on the interstate.

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Atlatlien said:

Can they re-shoot and I'll volunteer my set of old balls

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