garczar said:

if you've never hit balls on a fast TV lit table its hard to describe. i hit balls on the tv table at derby one year and that thing was literally like a sheet of glass. so much different than the outer tables it was hard to believe.

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Especially before the latest LED lights and if they have the old lights, they cook the humidity right out of the air
and the air circulates over the cloth, and all moisture leaves it as well= very slick conditions with new cloth.

SBC said:

If it's on the internet does it have to be true?

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Watching him play… I’m a believer.

Lou Figueroa

Paul_#_ said:

the patented AURORA front-end technology

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Mensabum said:

That's all one piece correct??

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The vault plate sure as hell should be one piece. The Aurora front-end technology is more than the vault plate and the photo makes it look like it includes foam, layers of carbon fiber and other material.
Photo from their Kickstarter website post

SBC said:

Maybe they can bring in Bergman for day 3?

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[emoji108] [emoji38] I don't mean to pile on, but that just about made me spit my coffee out... ya got me on that one [emoji1787]

lfigueroa said:

Hi Angel.

Yes, I think there's that. And I think many may not be figuring the equipment into it. While some may say a week is time enough to acclimate I disagree. With those pockets -- and whatever factors the cloth, rails, and balls are introducing -- I think it far more.

Lou Figueroa

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But both teams are playing the same table - is the table really a discriminator?

trob said:

Honest question. Why do you people need to level your table so much? Is it because of the flooring you have them on? I had my diamond delivered almost 3 years ago and it still rolls absolutely perfect. It’s in my garage that has carpet over a concrete floor.

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You got lucky on the floor and the mechanic doing it. Floor is at least 70% of the success.
Wood expands and contracts with temp and humidity, but I understand.
On the other side of that if a mechanic is a little off or he doesn't start the process the
correct way, the Diamond Bowl forms and middle is lower than the corners. In one place
I play this effect got worse in time and now its much worse.

I am not sure the cue is an Adam although the pointed pin makes me believe it is and I believe the case and the extra shaft are Ginacue. The red interior and chiseled feet is what he used on his cases. And the spare shaft looks like it is 3/8x10 in your photo. Send him the photos.

Good friend, nice cue. An Adam almost certainly and the case as well - normally the Adam name would be somewhere on the case - usually stamped on the outside, but the name often faded.
Looks as if this cue and case are almost mint - if that tip is original than play on this cue was minimal for sure.
If this cue and case are as pristine as the photos appear than I would say that this is at least a $1,000 asking price .
I tend to price for quick sales and this could be offered for more as it is a super nice Vintage Adam combo!!

The_JV said:

We could save a bunch of time if the admins bumped last year's thread and changed the date in the title.

If it weren't for Shaw's antics. Would anyone bother watching anymore..? Can everyone else also envision the Mosconi without Shaw these days.? It would be a bunch of emotionless Euro robots vs the already disheartened and downtrodden US squad. Even the walk outs after each rack look scripted when Shaw isn't involved.

Oh, an idea... A best of 3 round robin of beer pong before each match up.

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Agree, we need something to talk about. A competitive contest vs good old fashioned schadenfreude is also a lopsided battle, with the latter oftentimes winning out. Just sayin', folks like witnessing a good ole blood letting every now and then.

LeftyIke said:

Jay Helfert explained many of the reasons, and many other s have pointed out major issues, however people just get upset and make excuses. I can accept that as currently constituted, America does not have the amount of quality Players as the rest of the World, and doesn’t know what to do about it. I haven’t been proud of American Pool on the Big Stage in a long while. Carry on, though. The American System can’t draw the interest of the Young enough to attend a Tournament for free in many parts of the Country, and they don’t even know who our Top Players are.

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The "American System" you refer to simply does not exist. What does exist is bar table league pool. Look, we all love pool on this site and that's our jam...but if there were a broader demand for structured pool in America on a significant scale, then someone or some entity would step in to deliver that. That our society does not invest in pool relative to other endeavors is not a sin. Societies invest in what they collectively value. Or they invest in what one rich dude enjoys. Anyway, for example, I drove past a new Cricket field in Lexington KY numerous times this past year. The players obviously were enjoying their game. However, I doubt any player on that field bemoans America's lack of presence on the Cricket world stage. We play this game cuz its fun and we find it challenging and rewarding. Or we play it just to pass the time between beers. Both approaches are just fine. In fact, maybe the latter approach is more enjoyable. Of course, the latter would not have delivered my personal best high run in 14.1 two Saturday's ago, so there's that. Anyway, it's Friday, and no one can diminish the splendor of the weekend, not even a lopsided Mosconi Cup outcome.

Carry on boyz and gurlz. I won't watch this event, but I'll enjoy the banter surrounding it.

SA96 said:

Team USA can't afford to drop more than 1 game in today's session.

The session needs to be 4-1 or 5-1, depending on how many games they play.

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Maybe they can bring in Bergman for day 3?

Sseveral guys above Wolford....including gamblers like Henny and Chohan who won't play scared.