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Golden nineball

skor
Jaden said:
I'm watching the Malaysian open for golden nineball which are played on heyball tables. I don't necessarily like the tables and the cloth, but I really like the scoring aspect. mini gold racks give you 7 points (nineball on the break) Big gold racks give you 10 points (BNR). Regular win gives you 4 points and an opponent scratch from a safety, not sure on just a regular scratch, gives you one point.

You play a set number of frames and whoever has the most points at the end of the frames wins.

I really like that. You're rewarded for breaking and running out more than anything. You're rewarded for a golden break but not at the same level as a bnr. You're rewarded for good safety play, etc.
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It’s a completely different game than 9ball but I do like it as well.
I think that a point system is the best way to handicap 9ball for amateur pool
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U.S. OPEN 2026, Frisco, Texas, August 25-30

MattPoland
GideonF said:
If Shane had been eligible for the HoF in 2021 - before the finally won the World 9b and World 8b - do you think he wouldn’t have been a lock?

Corey never won a world championship - although I don’t think he was a “lock” I think he’s a deserving member.
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I think SVB’s achievements always had a small asterisk that he failed to translate US dominance into overseas success. His two world championships got that monkey off his back. I think he would have gotten in because 5x US Open Championships were significant and offsetting enough. Some would argue those might as well have been world championships given those eras. Some might be able to cite specific years where the field wasn’t as international as it could be. But the public mind was already made up on that one. 5x US Open was order of magnitude bigger than 9x Turning Stone Champion in a lot of minds.
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U.S. OPEN 2026, Frisco, Texas, August 25-30

MattPoland
GideonF said:
If Shane had been eligible for the HoF in 2021 - before the finally won the World 9b and World 8b - do you think he wouldn’t have been a lock?

Corey never won a world championship - although I don’t think he was a “lock” I think he’s a deserving member.
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Corey is funny to me. I don’t think we need to judge players in the 70s, 80s, 90s, 00s, 10s and 20s all different from each other based on what was happening in the landscape at the time. To start the further back you go the less you see on Wikipedia. But also the level of international talent, which tours were active, what games were played, etc is all different. Can’t measure Corey by the same yardstick you measure Filler.

In favor of Corey is his influence on the game. Some might argue it’s borderline meritorious service. Because in my opinion he gets more credit than he deserves in the break. Pool has went through many 9-ball break formats.

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With the Sardo Rack era, he definitely found the exploit for B1.1. But he’s not exactly the mad scientist that also solved B1.2, B1.3, or B2.1. So much has happened in the industry over the last 20 years on this front and he was more the godfather of this evolution than the perpetual disruptive that caused them to keep changing the rules every step of the way.

But I don’t entirely mind considering him just for who he was to the game in the early 2000s. It was game changing.
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U.S. OPEN 2026, Frisco, Texas, August 25-30

briankenobi
trob said:
Polarizing ? He asks questions and likes to learn new things. You only find him divisive because he’s not a liberal yes man and wants to think for himself. He’s not polarizing at all. He brings people on his show of all political agendas. Don’t be mad because the candidate you most likely wanted to vote for couldn’t sit down and have a conversation with someone without being told the questions or limiting what they could talk about lol she did two podcasts. One that aired was a disaster and the other one was so bad they didn’t air it 😂 and now your mad at Rogan. lol

He’s credited in a big way for blowing up ufc I’d love to have him on more pool broadcast… like every pool broadcast so he could do the same for matchwood .

You people want pool to blow up but you don’t want to get with the times and use the media how you have to in the year 2026 to make it blow up.

I was expecting to see more people complaining about espn cutting the broadcast and changing the channel when it hit its 3 hour window. That’s all I read on fb today and to them I said the same thing. Stop being cheap and spend the lousy $10 a month to have the match room app and you’ll have all you want with no interruptions. It’s been working flawlessly . Everyone Wants the sport to succeed but they don’t want to spend a lousy $10 to help it lol
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Preach! Speaking of the UFC, the same pool fan that will gripe about paying $90 or whatever the full derby city stream is the same person who will spend $70 or so on a UFC fight that is like 2-3 hours. We want pool to be treated like a sport, but then people don't support it like they do others sports. Makes no sense.
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Golden nineball

Jaden
Yeah I just garnered what I could of the system from watching...I still think it'd be cool to incorporate that system on our tables. Although I think the match should be considered over as soon as a point value that can't be reached by the opponent is achieved.
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Funny pic/gif thread...

Jaden
dquarasr said:
So, lessee, that’s, hmmm, carry the one…..

Where can I get 140 year old whiskey and a 35-year-old woman willing to serve it to me?

Doesn’t exist and doesn’t exist. Sigh.
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Yeah the last whiskey that went at auction that would qualify for me went for $137K, I don't want to even think about what a 26 year old that would serve it to me would cost...
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Definition of tips of English

nataddrho
MattPoland said:
The width of the tip changes the player's visual of what a tip of english is. And the radius of the tip (dime, nickel, quarter) changes where that "tip of english" contacts the cueball.

So I'm just not a fan of this this conversation at all. This is an aim small, miss small topic for me. Thinking only in terms of top, bottom, left or right is too vague. Thinking in terms of "tips" of top, bottom, left or right is a lot better but it's still vague.

Players should just have a mental spatial awareness of where the curved cueball will be contacted by the curved tip and have all their focus on delivering that precise pinpoint point-to-point contact. And that spot can be generically described to another player vaguely in terms of "tips of english" as a shorthand form of communication. But the player themselves should not be internally mentally modeling on "tips of english". They should simply be picking a pinpoint dot that feels right whether it's one tip out, half a tip out, 0.683 tips out, etc. They shouldn't lock their mental model of delivery into snapping onto a tip-offset grid on the cueball. The shot you need won't always be on that grid. It'll most often be in-between.
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Very well said. A spatial awareness of the cue ball surface.
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What is a cue’s “hit”?

Bavafongoul
My vote goes to Brooklyn Bagels……opened in 2002…….QVC promotes them as the best……they claim it’s the water.
I have enjoyed them for the past 24 years. My family on Staten Island keeps me supplied all year long. What a great
sandwich bagels can create and the variety of flavors is delicious…..and zero calories too.

Okay, I pushed the envelope on the calories thing but bread seems to be the staple of life down through history and bagels are better than toast, even sourdough, IMO. Besides, bagels also come in sourdough and helluva lot more.
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Phenolic Break Tips

Tennesseejoe
Bob Jewett said:
They are banned under the WPA equipment specs. They cause significant scuff marks on the cue ball. (This may be less with the newer chalks.)

There are reports of them causing half-moon cracks, but I haven't noticed that where I play, and people there do use phenolic break tips.
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I have had half moon dents in my cue ball and several other balls by phenolic visitors and did not realize it till a few days later. It was my best set but older so now i need to get a new set. What balls would recommend for a home table? I'm 83 and only plan to play for 20 more years.
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Definition of tips of English

MattPoland
The width of the tip changes the player's visual of what a tip of english is. And the radius of the tip (dime, nickel, quarter) changes where that "tip of english" contacts the cueball.

So I'm just not a fan of this this conversation at all. This is an aim small, miss small topic for me. Thinking only in terms of top, bottom, left or right is too vague. Thinking in terms of "tips" of top, bottom, left or right is a lot better but it's still vague.

Players should just have a mental spatial awareness of where the curved cueball will be contacted by the curved tip and have all their focus on delivering that precise pinpoint point-to-point contact. And that spot can be generically described to another player vaguely in terms of "tips of english" as a shorthand form of communication. But the player themselves should not be internally mentally modeling on "tips of english". They should simply be picking a pinpoint dot that feels right whether it's one tip out, half a tip out, 0.683 tips out, etc. They shouldn't lock their mental model of delivery into snapping onto a tip-offset grid on the cueball. The shot you need won't always be on that grid. It'll most often be in-between.
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Golden nineball

GideonF
A table run from the 1b out is also 7 points. And in the big events it also brings out a model to walk around the table with a 7 point sign.

Certainly a dry break followed by a run out is 7 points. I believe a wet break where the one is still on the table but the breaker misses the one and you run out is still 7 points (but not if he had made the 1 on the break and you start on the 2).
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Phenolic Break Tips

Bob Jewett
Tennesseejoe said:
Are phenolic break banned in any organizations, pool halls, events, etc.?
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They are banned under the WPA equipment specs. They cause significant scuff marks on the cue ball. (This may be less with the newer chalks.)

There are reports of them causing half-moon cracks, but I haven't noticed that where I play, and people there do use phenolic break tips.
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