Patrick Johnson said:

I think the ideal route from the 5 is off the end rail directly toward the 6. That way there's a perfect angle all the way.

pj
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I think 1 rail routes are harder to control the direction than 2 rail routes. If the spin is a hair off on the 1 rail route, it makes a big angle difference. On 2 rails routes (whether forward or backwards), an error in spin does not seem to have the same effect. The ball is usually going into the rail at a steep angle and picking up spin from the rail as well as the applied spin. So a small error in applied spin is a much smaller contribution to the total cb path.

iusedtoberich said:

There is a button that says "watch full video" and it will continue from the 6. He ended up hanging up the 6 and Davis ran out. It's actually worth watching about a min before my clip, and thru the end. The camera pans to the rest of the USA team throughout the run. They go from huge smiles to ghost faces.

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tim913 said:

He should have never let his stroke out on a shot like that. The collision caused the CB to go to his right and then bend(masse) back to his left zapping the CB’s energy so it just floated up towards the side pocket. He should have just rolled it back for easy position

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I think the ideal route from the 5 is off the end rail directly toward the 6 - a perfect angle all the way.

pj
chgo

He should have never let his stroke out on a shot like that. The collision caused the CB to go to his right and then bend(masse) back to his left zapping the CB’s energy so it just floated up towards the side pocket. He should have just rolled it back for easy position

cueball2010 said:

I thought ur comment about solvent proofing a wood shaft was funny. I mean it would just end up feeling like CF, which defeats the purpose of having a wood shaft. Which is why I dont understand Cuetec Avid shafts. Cover a wood shaft in fiber glass so they can put the word "Wood" in the description.

The only way I think you could create a solvent barrier is by using some car body ceramic coat or ceramic spray. And I assume it would not feel like wood anymore either.

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I silicone everything I shoot with. To me slick is all I want out of cue feel. It makes a difference at the extremes too ie, draw and the break. Even the slight tack of carnauba will take speed off those. I think a suitable sealer could be found.

straightline said:

Don't know what happened after that but how many times have you been left like the 6 ball shot or worse but you pounce on it and get out anyway; the only difference being who screwed up.

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There is a button that says "watch full video" and it will continue from the 6. He ended up hanging up the 6 and Davis ran out. It's actually worth watching about a min before my clip, and thru the end. The camera pans to the rest of the USA team throughout the run. They go from huge smiles to ghost faces.

Don't know what happened after that but how many times have you been left like the 6 ball shot or worse but you pounce on it and get out anyway; the only difference being who screwed up.

David in FL said:

So let's think golf.

No refs there.

The rules are the rules. Nobody, on their first day playing golf ever said I'm not gonna play this game if I have to count every time I swing at the ball.

Here's how the game is played.

Let's play!

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Yes, but golf also has local rules and a few options. Drop zones in some situations with hazards, TIOs for pro events. The tours tinker with the slow play rules. I haven’t looked in a while but I often thought that bordered on an agreement to waive rules. And the guys who bet high may modify the rules to avoid arguments.

Patrick Johnson said:

Pretty big speed error if so. Maybe just trying to miss the 9 on his way to center table and overdoes the inside?

pj <- Earl's shots aren't all pearls
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I think the speed was right whether he was going 1 rail to center table (your shot) or 2 rails forward. If he was going 2 rails forward, the ball hooked more than he anticipated, before following, and/or he didn't have enough spin. If he was going 1 rail to center, he put a touch more of inside and it completely ruined the shot.

It would be interesting for someone to ask him what he was playing today, but I'd be scared he would punch the person. haha.

Oliver said:

It seems to get worse with age...

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I know the feeling all too well

dr_dave said:

I disagree that leagues are just a “night out of fun.” That might be the case for low-division APA leagues, but many leagues are competitive, including some APA leagues. Low-level players don’t call other fouls like double hits (because most of them are clueless how to detect them), so they would probably let ball-touch fouls go also. However, league players who are competitive should play by the rules (unless they are playing against a complete banger, in which case they can let stuff slide).

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The video covers this as well, that is letting fouls slide. I think this defeats your own argument. If you want uniform rules you have to have them uniform. I also think pointing it out then not calling it is patronizing and condescending. Call the foul or don’t. And yeah one time I had a guy who I think had ref training tell me something was a foul after a game that wasn’t a foul. I didn’t like him bringing it up after. It’s like I got away with something or owed him something. (It did get me looking at the rule to find out how he misunderstood the rule.). I don’t think he intended that, but deal with it at the time IMO. That wasn’t an all ball fouls situation though.

the shirt or hair fouls are just begging for arguments in leagues. It is a rules nit’s dream. I see where you are coming from, but without a ref it’s asking for disputes. Asking for a hit to be watched doesn’t come up as much so doesn’t cause the same problems, although the way people go about it can be an issue.

Anyway, I guess it could be done. But IMO the rules should have kept the cue ball only option because I predict the leagues won’t change. That subtly undermines the chances of the rules being uniform. If it’s an option you can argue for it not to be used. Now it will just be disregarded.

mikemosconi said:

Putting water on a wood shaft is just stupid! 90+% isopropyl alcohol has been recommended for the past. 30 years by top rated cue makers- end of story.

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Yes, yes, yes

muskyed said:

In golf, you are only playing for your self, unless you are a touring pro. If you want to cheat, have at it, only affects your score, although those golfing with you most likely know your reputation.
Sorry Dave, but I don't play back in forth games, I say my peace, maybe reply once, and after that I've said what I feel and that's that, whether someone agrees or not.

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Golf is just like pool.

You play against someone else, or in a league match, or a tournament. Always with at least a little sumpin' on the line...

I've played close to 60 years and can count the number of times I've "played myself" on one hand and have fingers left over...

David in FL said:

So let's think golf.

No refs there.

The rules are the rules. Nobody, on their first day playing golf ever said I'm not gonna play this game if I have to count every time I swing at the ball.

Here's how the game is played.

Let's play!

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In golf, you are only playing for your self, unless you are a touring pro. If you want to cheat, have at it, only affects your score, although those golfing with you most likely know your reputation.
Sorry Dave, but I don't play back in forth games, I say my peace, maybe reply once, and after that I've said what I feel and that's that, whether someone agrees or not.