Cue Prices today, in this economy.

The Vandals were a group of Germanic peoples who were first mentioned in passing by a small number of Romanwriters in the first and second centuries, but became more prominent starting in the late second century during the tumultuous Marcomannic Wars of the Romans against many of the Germanic peoples north of the Danube, when Hasdingi-led Vandals took the side of the Romans, in exchange for territory in or near Dacia. It was also under Hasdingi leadership that large numbers of Vandals later migrated and formed a powerful Vandal Kingdom that ruled Roman North Africa for several generations until it was conquered by the Eastern Roman Empire in 534.

Relative how please explain your logic, I may understand it if it’s of any value. My thoughts are doubting it. But hey, Viking is a cue company.

If you could have one cue at no cost?

Dennis is not eccentric at all, not sure where this comes from. Tony at Black Boar, yes
When I talked to him, maybe I tickled his fancy, he went on for two or three hours. I enjoyed the conversation. He said no way he could build me a cue, I said you don’t got anything laying around you can finish, nope. I told him I’d pay $500 for a shaft, he said your not serious, really, next day my Runde was sent for a perfect match, with the Ivory S inlay. Got it back, hated it, the shaft he built years ago for a Tasc that I bought, hits 1000 times better. Old wood I guess. NFS, or the Runde or three shafts bob built with various Micarta. Traded that shaft to DeanOC plus a c-note for a Vigus Dufferin butterfly conversion, oil finish. That was probably my worst cue that was $500:out my pockets. Shaft after a month or two was twisted like a little sister i wouldnt claim!

What’s the worst cue you’ve ever bought?

I suppose my second Meucci Cue in the early 90’s is in contention. Inlays popped, points popped, and the butt cap fell off. I played with that cue for about 10 years and won about 50 tournaments.

I also had a Maximum by Meucci that the shaft warped. You could actually see the minor knot in the shaft that caused the warp

I got a cheap cue from Bert Kinnister, and I believe he said he made it. In restrospect, it was meant to be cheap… and it succeded. I suppose it would’ve been OK if I re-wrapped with real Irish linen and re-tapered the shaft.

same, meooshi, black dot shaft. previously owned by javelin thrower

Cue Design - Who Was First?

Hopefully here is a thread we can all have fun with peacefully. Leafing through my Billiard Encyclopedia and my 3rd ed. Blue Book of Cues I find some many designs from the 1800s onward that are echoed in the work of newer makers and I see work done by newer (newer than 1950s) that doesn't show up earlier.

We have a lot of cue knowledge on this forum and so I thought why not have a discussion on who was first with any particular design elements in cues. This refers to decorative designs not structural designs.

Craig said Paradise was the first to use MOP notched diamond inlays. I can't find an earlier example so I have to give Craig the point at this point so let's start with that.

Maybe this format would work.

Design Element - Maker - Year
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Notched mop diamond inlays - Paradise - mid 50s

Single Sided Veneers - Richard Chudy - 1993

Four points - B.Finck - 1880 (the annotation says some designs go back the 1840s)

Butterfly Splices - B.Finck - 1880

Round dot inlays - B.Finck - 1880

Diamond inlays - B. Finck - 1880

Veneers around the points - B.Finck 1880

Segmented Inlaid Handles - B.Finck - 1880

Elaborate wavy curly designs - B.Finck - 1880

3 piece cues - B.Finck - 1880 (sorry Sheldon and Predator)

Barbells - B. Finck - 1880

Reverse points below wrap - B.Finck - 1880

Sharp points into butterflies - B.Finck - 1880

There is really a lot more but I am kind of tired - the B.Finck fold out is on page 282 of the Billiard Encyclopedia Third Ed. I see about 150 cues and within those cues is almost every design element found in cues today in some form or another.

So continuing on though for a few minutes off the top of my head - please correct me if I am wrong:

Unbroken interlocked inlays - Thomas Wayne - 1994/95ish

Sliver Inlays - Ginacue Ernie Gutierezz - 1965

Pearly rings - Paradise - 1960ish?

Ok, you guys take it from here. Let's establish a list of firsts.
I always wondered who I started the razor blade that Bob did at Schon?

Sold Me97-15 pool cue butt only $400 or best offer if you got it right or a lesser tried with boots

Title: Meucci 97-15 Butt Only – Great Condition / Rolls Straight

Description:
Selling a Meucci 97-15 (butt only).

Details & Condition:

Roll: Rolls exceptionally straight.

Finish/Inlays: No bolt, no yellowing on the wrap (just a slight yellowing on the butt cap). You can slightly feel some of the inlays from years of normal play, but overall it is in great shape.

Collar/Joint: Zero cracks anywhere. There are a couple of small chips in the forearm joint collar.

Reason for selling: It’s a great cue that I'd love to keep, but Meucci just isn't my feel at the end of the day.

Price / Trades:

Price: $400 OBO

Trades: Open to trading for a butt, shaft, or full playing cue. Looking for reputable brands only.

PM me if you have any questions or trade offers!

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