What is the value of One foot on Floor poster
- By bbb
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sorry i canr be of more help but i think there was a thread about it on here and someine posted theirs with a letter of authenticity if i remember correctly
I've seen them for sale before...on an obscure site whose name I can't remember now...a-z something,Never seen a JackPot on Wanted or Sales Forum, they are the Holy Grail of a GREAT PLAYER..........
When I talked to him, maybe I tickled his fancy, he went on for two or three hours. I enjoyed the conversation. He said no way he could build me a cue, I said you don’t got anything laying around you can finish, nope. I told him I’d pay $500 for a shaft, he said your not serious, really, next day my Runde was sent for a perfect match, with the Ivory S inlay. Got it back, hated it, the shaft he built years ago for a Tasc that I bought, hits 1000 times better. Old wood I guess. NFS, or the Runde or three shafts bob built with various Micarta. Traded that shaft to DeanOC plus a c-note for a Vigus Dufferin butterfly conversion, oil finish. That was probably my worst cue that was $500Dennis is not eccentric at all, not sure where this comes from. Tony at Black Boar, yes
I suppose my second Meucci Cue in the early 90’s is in contention. Inlays popped, points popped, and the butt cap fell off. I played with that cue for about 10 years and won about 50 tournaments.
I also had a Maximum by Meucci that the shaft warped. You could actually see the minor knot in the shaft that caused the warp
I got a cheap cue from Bert Kinnister, and I believe he said he made it. In restrospect, it was meant to be cheap… and it succeded. I suppose it would’ve been OK if I re-wrapped with real Irish linen and re-tapered the shaft.
I always wondered who I started the razor blade that Bob did at Schon?Hopefully here is a thread we can all have fun with peacefully. Leafing through my Billiard Encyclopedia and my 3rd ed. Blue Book of Cues I find some many designs from the 1800s onward that are echoed in the work of newer makers and I see work done by newer (newer than 1950s) that doesn't show up earlier.
We have a lot of cue knowledge on this forum and so I thought why not have a discussion on who was first with any particular design elements in cues. This refers to decorative designs not structural designs.
Craig said Paradise was the first to use MOP notched diamond inlays. I can't find an earlier example so I have to give Craig the point at this point so let's start with that.
Maybe this format would work.
Design Element - Maker - Year
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Notched mop diamond inlays - Paradise - mid 50s
Single Sided Veneers - Richard Chudy - 1993
Four points - B.Finck - 1880 (the annotation says some designs go back the 1840s)
Butterfly Splices - B.Finck - 1880
Round dot inlays - B.Finck - 1880
Diamond inlays - B. Finck - 1880
Veneers around the points - B.Finck 1880
Segmented Inlaid Handles - B.Finck - 1880
Elaborate wavy curly designs - B.Finck - 1880
3 piece cues - B.Finck - 1880 (sorry Sheldon and Predator)
Barbells - B. Finck - 1880
Reverse points below wrap - B.Finck - 1880
Sharp points into butterflies - B.Finck - 1880
There is really a lot more but I am kind of tired - the B.Finck fold out is on page 282 of the Billiard Encyclopedia Third Ed. I see about 150 cues and within those cues is almost every design element found in cues today in some form or another.
So continuing on though for a few minutes off the top of my head - please correct me if I am wrong:
Unbroken interlocked inlays - Thomas Wayne - 1994/95ish
Sliver Inlays - Ginacue Ernie Gutierezz - 1965
Pearly rings - Paradise - 1960ish?
Ok, you guys take it from here. Let's establish a list of firsts.