Black-Balled said:

Nice

Looks like it is a cue model for martin horn.

And, actual ebony too, forearm and buttpiece.

I liked the way the g2s play...till I didn't.
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Been playing them for 15 years, Never even had the tip 'Flare out/spread'!

It is Martin Horn, 2nd model!

https://www.longonicues.com/longoni...ontinued?view=article&id=26:intuition&catid=3

The 71 model is a typical 'Butterfly Flames'!

mr3cushion said:

It says, Longoni-/Intuition, model 31, wood joint, E69 taper, 12mm, G2 med!

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Nice

Looks like it is a cue model for martin horn.

And, actual ebony too, forearm and buttpiece.

I liked the way the g2s play...till I didn't.

garczar said:

Are you some pro or what? I'm bettin you couldn't beat the 10b ghost racin to five on his new table. Have you ever played on D'mond LeagueCuts?? With the deep shelf they aren't all that easy.

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I have yet to be in the same building as a Diamond anything. 5 BIH outs is conceivable on Chinese tables even. I'm no player but 10 ball is no Holy Grail either. Anyway my only interest in tables is as learning tools. And my interest in beating anyone at any level is right around zero. Also why I criticize various institutions. Nothing personal. It's all academic.

Middle cue w/ 2 shafts. I can send better pics, if you'd like.

Rocket354 said:

In general, I think comparing shafts of the same brand between different diameters, and/or different brands of the same diameter is most relevant and useful. A 12.5 of one brand vs a 11.8 of another seems to be the least valuable comparison.

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If you want to send me a wide collection of all the most popular shafts, all with identical tips and identical diameters and with butts giving identical cue weights, I would be happy to test them for you.

Rocket354 said:

Most concerning to me is the difference in how the Revo performed between tests. I know in the video you said you thought it was the cloth wearing in more, but didn't you just do another test video with the Revo within the last couple weeks that was more similar to previous tests? If so, did the cloth suddenly wear in so dramatically within such a short time-span?

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I’ve done a lot of testing recently, especially before filming the latest video, with lots of pre-testing. Maybe chalk residue was building up also. Regardless, all the shots in the video were very consistent and repeatable, so I trust the results. And the natural pivot length numbers (which don’t depend much on cloth conditions) were consistent between the videos.

I noticed a similar issue years ago when working on the draw shot drill in BU Exam I. I was practicing it so much along the same line that the increases in friction (which happened fairly quickly) made the drill much more difficult. When I changed the line slightly or went to the other side of the table, the ease of draw was dramatically different.

I have a 12.5 mm 5/16-14. Some light scratches on the ferrule. $300 paypal shipped in the CONUS. Message if interested. Thanks.

Been using 3 Vantage shafts with different joint configs, for the past 3 years or so, got tired of fixing minor dents. Decided to go carbon. My first carbon cue was the Rhino 12.4, did not liked it, got a Revo 12.4 and really liked it. Decided to sell the Rhino, but decided to install a Kamui before selling it, tried it and it was really good, kept interchanging between Revo and Rhino and in one session and at some point, I could not tell the difference between the Revo and Rhino. On some shots, a "weird" sound would be heard using the Rhino. It did not affect playability. I did not experience the issue Dr. Dave experienced with the Rhino, but as he mentioned, the issue was likely caused by the tip. I will be getting another Rhino for my other cues...

Callaghan said:

I guess we all want a blocwk letter Joss. If you have one you’d like to sell, let’s talk. I’ll pay top dollar for a unique offering. Thanks!

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I have a 70's JW . It was restored by Proficient Billiards . I will forward pictures if you have any interest .

dendweller said:

I'm really curious if the same results would come from a 12.9 revo compared to a 12.9 Rhino. But I'm not curious enough to buy them and send them to you.

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In general, I think comparing shafts of the same brand between different diameters, and/or different brands of the same diameter is most relevant and useful. A 12.5 of one brand vs a 11.8 of another seems to be the least valuable comparison.

Black-Balled said:

Which one and what joint + tip?

I have an s30 in that length/ taper/ mm and it is a fine shaft.

I have a older e71 s30 too and it has a hardHARD tip on it. Plays better but tip is closer to 11.5.

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It says, Longoni-/Intuition, model 31, wood joint, E69 taper, 12mm, G2 med!

garczar said:

You mean take your guess as fact? Could be correct, might not. The ads for these show pool, carom or combination(pool table with extra carom rails) models. No mention of snooker version anywhere. Do you think your beloved B'wick would be so stupid as to make that big of a misprint error? AD:https://brunswick.pastperfectonline.com/library/E23C67A9-21FC-46E0-972D-831590686333 The word 'snooker' is nowhere to be seen in these old B'wick catalogs. Purely a blind omission?

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It was sold for the Canadian market. Different ads, lost to time. Have you ever in your life seen an ad for a 12' GC Snooker table? I know I haven't. Yet there are many out there IN Canada.

dr_dave said:

You can trust the relative comparisons in each video, with the Revo as the commonality.

I think your conclusion

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Most concerning to me is the difference in how the Revo performed between tests. I know in the video you said you thought it was the cloth wearing in more, but didn't you just do another test video with the Revo within the last couple weeks that was more similar to previous tests? If so, did the cloth suddenly wear in so dramatically within such a short time-span?