garczar said:

have i said anything to change that stance? Is it the reading or the comprehension you struggle with??? Get lost Justin.

who really gives a shit?

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maha said:

nice old cue but you can see things dont line up well or are not uniform. so its still a low line cue.

but any cue that hits well is pure gold. the rest is fluff.

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Chili Palmer said:

A buddy of mine had this in his case last night. He bought it at least 10 years ago, maybe 15, I don't remember.

Either way, he picked it up for about $150-200.new with 2 shafts and a case.

What a beautiful cue and it hits amazing. I had zero idea J&J had been around that long. In my world they're known for their cheap jump/break combos and I was amazed to see a cue like this from them. I enjoy looking at the new fancy stuff but an old school simple cue is where it's at for me and this checks all the boxes.

P.S. It's not for sale (I asked ), I'm just posting it for your viewing pleasure

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Cornerman said:

If your friend says anything other than the Newsgroup rec.sport.billiard around the year 2000 for the origin of the term and method of Front Hand English, then he wasnt around when it originated. Several of us on this forum were around at that time. Fronthand English was deduced due to the emerging presence of lower squirt/deflection cue and our greater understanding of how squirt worked. I am crediting Ron Shepard in 2001in his paper "Everything You Always Wanted to Know About Squirt But Were Too Afraid to Ask" for coining the term Front Hand English for lower squirt shafts.

http://www.sfbilliards.com/Misc/Shepard_squirt.pdf

The term Backhand English was popularized by Hal Houle on the internet starting around 1997, also on those newsgroups, but he always said that he learned the technique from Ralph Greenleaf. So it was around long before the internet. Another earlier internet term for it is the Aim & Pivot method, which was shared on those Newsgroups around 1993ish. I believe a diagram in a Michael Phelan book from over 100 years ago that Bob Jewett has shared is one of the earliest indication of using the backhand to align the english for deflection compensation.

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sjm said:

The reason that the runout has become so difficult is the break rule. For three full WNT seasons, nine on the spot with a narrow break box has ended the days of players being able to play any kind of shape for the first shot after the break. Yes, they can still make the one in the side with cut break, but that is rarely enough to string many racks.

The 4 inch pockets are not the main reason there are fewer runout chances, and players have become more conservative in their play. Despite their suggestion that 9ball is the better game, Matchroom has made 9ball more like 10ball by stifling some of the offense and robbing the game of, what I believe, is a more fan-friendly pace of play.

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Paul_#_ said:

Can you talk about Wheat State's carbon types Rolled and Wound? Which one was used in Dr Dave's test? Does it matter?

From Wheat State's Facebook page:

WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN ROLLED AND WOUND CARBON?​

-Rolled and wound carbon are made using a different process. There's no "better". Most companies use rolled carbon. Mine are custom made for me to my exact specifications, taper, and flex level, which is a crucial aspect as most carbon shafts are too stiff.​

-ROLLED is dark gray in color like most and transfers a hair more energy than wound.​

-WOUND is dark, shiny black and can have some visual grain type patterns in the carbon. Wound transfers a hair less energy than rolled, but it is a hair more smooth in your hand.​

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Wayne Crimi said:

1 x Predator REVO Pool Shaft - 12.4 mm - 29 inches - White Vault Plate



I just bought the above to replace my Predator 314 that's about 31 years old. When I first switched to Predator from a standard wood shaft with a lot of deflection I loved it. My game almost immediately moved up a small notch. In recent years I felt like that 31 year off shaft deflected much more than when I first bought it and in a less consistant way. The same shot, with the same speed and same amount of English seemed to have a higher deflection variance. Don't ask me to explain it. It was just inconsistent and driving me crazy enough to splurge and ugrade my cue and switch to a Revo even though I had never played with one.

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Paul_#_ said:

Can you talk about Wheat State's carbon types Rolled and Wound? Which one was used in Dr Dave's test? Does it matter?

From Wheat State's Facebook page:

WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN ROLLED AND WOUND CARBON?
-Rolled and wound carbon are made using a different process. There's no "better". Most companies use rolled carbon. Mine are custom made for me to my exact specifications, taper, and flex level, which is a crucial aspect as most carbon shafts are too stiff.
-ROLLED is dark gray in color like most and transfers a hair more energy than wound.
-WOUND is dark, shiny black and can have some visual grain type patterns in the carbon. Wound transfers a hair less energy than rolled, but it is a hair more smooth in your hand.​

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jasonlaus said:

I'll have to ask my friend about the origin.

There is a difference between the two in how they're used.

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Island Drive said:

No room owner will have Diamond bar tables with the pro cut 4 1/4 pockets for their regulars, who spend money on liquor and foodk.
Those patrons pay the rent and the last thing a room owner wants is player frustration, where no one can ever run more than two or 3 balls.
4'' pockets on a dirty or worn out table in humid conditions it's not pool.
That's why Bowling hasn't changed the lane size, or the PGA hasn't made the cup smaller.

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