As for detecting stuff on the ball, there is equipment that can tell the chemical composition of materials at levels far lower than what would be on the ball. Not cheap, so the ball would likely have to be sent to a lab.

I think a better idea is to have a new cue ball for each rack, and no impromptu cleaning by the players. Cue balls do change some during a match if they aren't cleaned.

Murph said:

Who made the sneaky?

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I do not know. I took it in a trade.

TeddyKGB said:

im pretty sure this is what Savanna Easton is using right now and she does ok

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I use a 3.1 oz wood shaft that has a crack under the ferrule and it’s about as dirty as you can get. I do ok…. It’s not shaft/cue!

Fully understand it before operating it. Safety first. Take corners off…. A router or disc sander ?

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Maybe this will result in pool tables getting heaters, like both snooker and carom tables already have. That would eliminate one reason to doctor the balls.

Efren has never talked like that, not even in his first language.

skogstokig said:

yeh. everybody cleans balls at some point. that was hardly the point, nor is it necessarily indicating concern. he was testing the cb reaction in the video, after the match against jeff wax.

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I assume some players have waxed balls. Too many people have complained not to think it hasn't happened.

I just don't have a clue as to who has done it, or what it would look like. Not unless I waxed balls myself and shot them.

As such I think like sjm: All MR can do is try to stop it going forward.

My original post, btw, was partly in cheek. Pros do obsess about the CB. My other balls always get stuff on them too, I'd note.

In any case, I do wonder if the worries about Filipinos waxing the ball has almost become like an urban legend. Non-Pinoys thinking every Filipino uses wax. Every game. Every where. It could be getting in their heads and giving Pinots an actual advantage!

MR and WPA will have to sort it all out.

DrCue'sProtege said:

Dang, I didn't realize I had started that thread only three months or so ago.

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We realize it.

billiards_watch said:

Also, some of these guys don't even think they are cheating. They're so use to it that it becomes the norm. "We're both playing with clean waxed balls. So stop accusing me of cheating."

It can very well be a cultural thing.

I play at different pool halls in California and each room has its own culture. Some pool halls play ball in hand after a scratch and some play behind the line. They've adopted their own rules for 8 ball.

The same with waxing in my opinion.

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My point is that if you watch the video posted earlier in this thread it sure does look like it’s prevalent and it’s more than Filipino players doing it.

I will say to your point of maybe players don’t think that it’s cheating… I mean if you watch the video non of those players seem to be trying to hide it. (If that’s what they are doing?) but it sure does look like it. Maybe it has evolved from polishing all the balls and obviously the cue ball gets the most chalk. That’s why I asked earlier what’s the difference between polishing, waxing, and slicking the cue ball? Where is the line drawn? What products will be allowed and which ones banned?

You're right, it must be an earlier version. Thanks for that