lfigueroa said:

Just a general comment about the 1pocket comments: I feel many of you are describing old school 1pocket -- the same 1pocket I learned back in the late 90's.

A lot of defense and what ya'll call bunting.

However, the game has evolved thanks to players like Frost and Chohan and slew of others and 'if you play that old school style today you are a dead duck. Players are much more aggressive on their offensive shots, banks, and take-outs. And the old; "You only kick if you're mad at your backers money" is out the window. Players nowadays are *creating* opportunities through aggressive play and when they get them they are running a ton of balls and matches tend to move along far more quickly than the old days.

It's not your grandma's 1pocket anymore.

Lou Figueroa

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Sometime between 2015 and 2019 I was at Derby and Joyner and JJ played a one pocket match where one GAME took 3 hours. Held up the entire 1p field because they couldn’t draw a round.

But I do hear you about the newer school. In 2015 Alex played two matches in the later stages of the 1p that were maybe 30 minutes each - including this gem against Efren. If all one pocket was like this it would be a great spectator sport.

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David in FL said:

Can't I just be the ball...?

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My method is to angrily mutter to the ball "Are you too good for your home?!?!?!?!?"

Zerksies said:

Not sure what you are currently playng with. But having a cuemaker cut down a butt and install a wrap can be costly. Why not just buy a new cue.

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The very first sentence. The gd very first sentence tells you what he plays with. The first sentence!

8cree said:

Yea we're so lucky to get the hair body face and teeth wash all in one LOL

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I was wondering why your breath smelled like an Irish Spring....

stevelomako said:

The held the event AND kept booking matches.
Yah, I guess you’re right Stu, we really don’t need proof of any type of allegation as long as it sounds good.

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Exactly. The court of public opinion tends to decide most cases in the world in which we live. Public opinion is, of course, not infallible, but it tends to be right. Not every matter of opinion needs to be adjudicated in the American legal system.

stevelomako said:

Dogging it and dumping look the same.

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No, they do not. If a pro misses several easy shots, it does not mean it is a dump, but if a legend of the game jumps up over on their shot, that's different. There are players that don't jump up more than a handful of times in a year, and if they have a breakdown in their fundamental several times in one rack, it is very suspicious.

Agree with you that it is not proof but, as I said, before, anyone watching this that did not at least suspect a dump wasn't watching very closely. If this was not a dump, let's at least credit the participants for doing everything possible to make it look like a dump. Of course, given the improbable and disproportionate amount of betting on the longshot Mike LeBron, it looked even worse.

Just as in a court of law, a motive is generally needed in the court of public opinion, and the motive was right there in front of everyone to see.

Yours is an opinion I greatly respect, Steve, but we'll have to agree to disagree on this occasion.

Chopdoc said:

There is essentially nothing wrong with the joint but most ditch that first in a conversion. In fact, some conversions just change the joint.

I will be interested. Please post your results.

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I want to find and convert one of these next and keep the joint so it's close to original. I know many can't stand this pin too. There has to be a reason why Dufferin selected these odd pins and joints years ago.

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decent dennis said:

Like Alcaide is a racehorse?

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even worse with two slow players. bergman won anyway, wp

ratcues said:

The wall thickness of a CF tube is pretty thin compared to the amount needed to undercut a wrap channel. You're playing with fire unless you specifically know the that all thickness.

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Beyond that, cf can be easily compromised by cutting layers off.

skogstokig said:

i had forgot how slow bergman plays without a shotclock. but he's leading 6-5

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Like Alcaide is a racehorse?

nataddrho said:

The only solutions to this that I can think of are both ridiculous and brilliant.

1. A triangular template that is suspended by strings from the ceiling on top of the balls instead of under the balls. The gravity provides constant inward pressure and forces the rack tight. Not too heavy though. When a break shot occurs the strings are pulled up and the rack quickly rises back to the ceiling. Like a boxing match microphone.

2. 15 holes are drilled into the slate of the table in locations that are strategic to cause the balls to roll towards each other, exactly like a magic rack. The cloth is then placed over the holes. Rods are inserted into the holes from the bottom of the slate and attached to an actuator. When the actuator is engaged, the rods move upwards until flush with the top of the slate, causing the dimples underneath the cloth to disappear.

In both ideas, the template doesn't interfere with the rolling balls, but forces a tight rack.

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Ffs, mark the rack when the cloth is installed.

skogstokig said:

i had forgot how slow bergman plays without a shotclock. but he's leading 6-5

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he actually plays better when he plays faster- that's the ironic part

skogstokig said:

he gave archer the 7 playing afterhours yesterday. don't know if he won, or if he got paid if he won

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must be sad for Archer to have to ask for spots now that he would have given in his prime- and he still lost