Golden nineball

Yeah I never understood the full differentiation between the 4pt and 7pt victories. I couldn't find it online, either.

Inferring from this thread, if player A breaks, makes a ball other than the 1, misses, and player B runs out then B gets 7 points? But if A breaks, makes the 1 only, misses, and B runs out, now B only gets 4?

What if A breaks and makes five balls, but not the 1, then misses? Would B get 7 points if he runs out?

Phenolic Break Tips

They are banned under the WPA equipment specs. They cause significant scuff marks on the cue ball. (This may be less with the newer chalks.)

There are reports of them causing half-moon cracks, but I haven't noticed that where I play, and people there do use phenolic break tips.
Aren’t phenolic tips the standard/default for most major brands of break and jump cues?

Are they all banned by the WPA?

Golden nineball

I'm watching the Malaysian open for golden nineball which are played on heyball tables. I don't necessarily like the tables and the cloth, but I really like the scoring aspect. mini gold racks give you 7 points (nineball on the break) Big gold racks give you 10 points (BNR). Regular win gives you 4 points and an opponent scratch from a safety, not sure on just a regular scratch, gives you one point.

You play a set number of frames and whoever has the most points at the end of the frames wins.

I really like that. You're rewarded for breaking and running out more than anything. You're rewarded for a golden break but not at the same level as a bnr. You're rewarded for good safety play, etc.
It’s a completely different game than 9ball but I do like it as well.
I think that a point system is the best way to handicap 9ball for amateur pool

U.S. OPEN 2026, Frisco, Texas, August 25-30

If Shane had been eligible for the HoF in 2021 - before the finally won the World 9b and World 8b - do you think he wouldn’t have been a lock?

Corey never won a world championship - although I don’t think he was a “lock” I think he’s a deserving member.
I think SVB’s achievements always had a small asterisk that he failed to translate US dominance into overseas success. His two world championships got that monkey off his back. I think he would have gotten in because 5x US Open Championships were significant and offsetting enough. Some would argue those might as well have been world championships given those eras. Some might be able to cite specific years where the field wasn’t as international as it could be. But the public mind was already made up on that one. 5x US Open was order of magnitude bigger than 9x Turning Stone Champion in a lot of minds.

U.S. OPEN 2026, Frisco, Texas, August 25-30

If Shane had been eligible for the HoF in 2021 - before the finally won the World 9b and World 8b - do you think he wouldn’t have been a lock?

Corey never won a world championship - although I don’t think he was a “lock” I think he’s a deserving member.
Corey is funny to me. I don’t think we need to judge players in the 70s, 80s, 90s, 00s, 10s and 20s all different from each other based on what was happening in the landscape at the time. To start the further back you go the less you see on Wikipedia. But also the level of international talent, which tours were active, what games were played, etc is all different. Can’t measure Corey by the same yardstick you measure Filler.

In favor of Corey is his influence on the game. Some might argue it’s borderline meritorious service. Because in my opinion he gets more credit than he deserves in the break. Pool has went through many 9-ball break formats.

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With the Sardo Rack era, he definitely found the exploit for B1.1. But he’s not exactly the mad scientist that also solved B1.2, B1.3, or B2.1. So much has happened in the industry over the last 20 years on this front and he was more the godfather of this evolution than the perpetual disruptive that caused them to keep changing the rules every step of the way.

But I don’t entirely mind considering him just for who he was to the game in the early 2000s. It was game changing.

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