I am going to geek out and allow the OCD, math, and logic in me run free:

1, 2, 3 are primary colors
1 = Yellow
2= Blue
3 = Red

Using a purely math progression:
4, SHOULD BE: 1 + 2, Yellow + Blue = Green;
5 SHOULD BE : 1 + 3, Yellow + Red = Orange;
6 SHOULD BE 2 + 3, Blue + Red = Purple
7 SHOULD BE mud-blood, Yellow + Blue + Red = Brown
8 SHOULD BE no color, i.e., Black
And of course the CB is all colors, White

But that's not how it was developed. 4 is Purple, 2 Blue + 3 Red; 5 is orange 1 Yellow + 3 Red; I don't agree but it's legacy.

I can almost see how the original colors were developed. 1 combo with 2; 2 combo with 3 for Purple for 4, 1 combo with 3 Orange for 5. So let's allow the long, long history of 4 Purple, 5 Orange and 6 Green stand.

It is egregious that the long-standing colors, needing to be adjusted to satisfy the requirements of clarity for TV screens, one color should NEVER have replaced a legacy color. It's that simple. F*$% purple 5's. I don't care how successful you are promoting the game. Violating history by reassigning a legacy color to a different number is simply wrong.

Color me blue for my relative inability to deal with grey; I'm a black-and-white person. (See what I did there? LOL)

Bob Frey cue that I own is the very best playing full splice cue that I have ever owned- the second best is a Scruggs SP that I owned and possibly made by Frey himself. A close third is my early 50s Willie Hoppe Titilist conversion full splice cue.

I still rate Frey full splice cues as # 1 on the planet for playability and I have played many, many cue brands and makers - I admit that I have never played a Hercek FS cue - but those cues start at about $6,000 on the secondary market.

skogstokig said:

he can't possibly have any self respect to do that shit. disgraceful

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I can't find the original source but im still disappointed that his name comes up when someone asked Efren on who he think is the best upcoming local player. This was 12-15 years ago

garczar said:

Not GC's, those are Centurions.

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That explains my confusion. Great info.
I measured the pockets and they were 4-7/8, and yes they play like buckets except for balls rejected by the plastic pocket liners that don't look like they belong.

Talking a '91 JW- make sure that the white material is clean, put them under a good light and use a magnifier if necessary- if you see any grain in the white----- for this year and cue maker it is close to 100% that they are ivory. The ivory joints that I have seen on earlier JW cues are about a half inch in length. FYI- some of his ivory joints are prone to develop cracks, but I know very good players who have played with cracked JW ivory joints for years with no ill effects on their game.

couldnthinkof01 said:

Do you switch to 6 red snooker when the cloth breaks in?

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Think it would drive me nuts with square jaws