Gold Crown 7 Revealed

Be careful.

Do you know what size pockets that Gold Crown IV table has?

Might want to check with Kim Thompson before delivery. Perhaps they could get them the way you want them right from the git go.

Then again, they may already be what you want.

Good luck!

r/DCP
No need to be careful. Buy it. Have the right mechanic service/modify and Play Ball

Gold Crown 7 Revealed

I just made a deal with Kim Thompson to buy one of the GCIV's these tables replaced.

Be careful.

Do you know what size pockets that Gold Crown IV table has?

Might want to check with Kim Thompson before delivery. Perhaps they could get them the way you want them right from the git go.

Then again, they may already be what you want.

Good luck!

r/DCP

Push shot foul?

I think the call still could (and arguably should) have been overruled by a good knowledgeable head referee, and part of the issue here was that Marcel is not a good knowledgeable head ref (to put it kindly).

In his protest Pongers presumably told Marcel "the ref declared the balls to be frozen, and I shot through the balls with a normal stroke as allowed when the balls are frozen, so it was not a foul". Presumably Marcel then asked the ref why he felt it was a foul when hitting into a frozen ball is legal (or he certainly should have if he didn't), and if the ref said something along the lines of that it was based purely off of the "cue ball and object ball moving forward together at the same speed" Marcel should know right there that is not the measure for whether that shot is a foul or not (since it would have been the expected action) and overruled the call.

If the ref instead said something along the lines of "well it just looked like a push stroke to me" Marcel should have then asked some follow up questions such as "what speed did he hit the ball at", "what made you think it looked like a push", and "did he first put the tip on the ball and then push forward" along with a couple others as needed. When the ref presumably answered with something like "he hit the shot fairly hard, and no, he didn't put the tip on the ball first and then push, he just hit it like a regular shot, it just seemed to me that the tip was in contact with the cue ball a little longer than it would normally be" Marcel should have known that the ref just didn't know what he was doing on the call and clearly made a bad call. With good questioning from a qualified head ref I think there was enough there to overrule the call, although I also understand the hesitation to do so without the ability to look at a replay in this particular case.

One thing is certain. Matchroom refs in general, and Marcel in particular, need a lot more knowledge and training before they are qualified to be refereeing professional level events.

Here is what the WNT Rules say:

“10. Protest Ruling

If the tournament is being played with an Area Referee, players do have the right to ask for a decision making call by such official at all times.

Players do have the right to ask for a second opinion after such a call has been made,
the Area Referee will then call over a Senior Referee.

If Table Referees are in charge of the matches, there shall be no right for either player to ask for a second opinion; the referees are in sole charge of the matches and their decision is final.”

So IF there was a Table Referee (and I’m not sure) Marcel would have had to tell Pongers that the head referee had no ability to change the call. This would be the correct application of their rules by Marcel (as much as I don’t like that rule).

If it was an Area Referee, there is an opportunity for a second opinion, but I don’t know what restrictions they place on the type of review. Can he look at a replay? Is it only on interpretation issues and not factual. For example, if the referee says he knows you can shoot into a frozen ball but says he feels it was a 3.8 push, the WNT might take the view that the Area Referee’s factual decision has to stand. As easier example is if the Area Ref determines that the CB didn’t hit a cushion after contact- the rule and its interpretation aren’t in dispute, just the facts.

Personally I think the rule SHOULD be that the head referee can review any ruling by any referee, including by looking at the video. I do think you’d need something like the NFL standard of “plain and obvious” to overturn a call.

Aramith Low end Billiard Balls

To add to the conversation, I have a set of Aramith Disney balls. They are phenolic, but the logos are all painted on. They play the same to me as my Aramith Super Pro set, really nice.

I mention that because Aramith also sells a painted normal number set today, that is phenolic. It's the Continental Belgian set below for $65. It might be an option for a budget buy.

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Why do some Chinese players shoot insanely fast?

Matchroom just posted this clip with the caption "Mohammad Soufi flies into the last 64. One of the fastest players on Tour showing exactly what his game's about". Yet his pace is still slower than the guys in that video in the original post.

🟩🟠 Some training-balls miscue limits don't work

The miscue limit is the furthest distance from cue-ball center that player can hit without miscuing. The distance is generally accepted to be one-half a billiard-ball radius or 9/16" (14.3mm) or 0.5R. Some billiard-ball stripes are that width. For beginners, a more practical miscue limit may be between 0.4 to 0.45R. DrDave found a maximum miscue limit of 0.55R.

The Rempe training ball shows an area to apply spin that has a miscue limit of 0.7R. It instructs players hit the Rempe ball and to note chalk marks to determine where spin was applied. That's a disaster, though, for beginners who would miscue hitting the ball at about 0.5R length and for experienced players above 0.55R. Rempe's instructions should state that miscues are likely when cue-tip chalk smudges from contacting training ball occur at markings above 3.2 (that is, at 0.5R).

The CueSight Training ball instructs players to “stay inside the white circle and you will not miscue” (see ball between the elephant and Rempe balls below). That white circle can mean hitting the cue ball at 0.61R — impossible to reach for beginners or DrDave. It should state that players should hit the ball within 0.5R --- that is about 3mm inside the white circle (this is the outer-most small circle --- see photo below).

The Elephant training ball is fine --- it has a red circle that corresponds to a 0.5R. Its' area for applying spin is much smaller than CueSight's or Rempe's. I, a beginner, miscued hitting its red circle, but that’s me and not Elephant Ball's fault.

Experienced players --- not beginners --- know about some of this. A DrDave video shows a Rempe ball miscuing well within the zone that supposedly could be used for spin (0.6R; see photo below). When YouTuber Ron the Pool Student uses a Rempe ball to show where to hit to add spin, he hits well below the maximum that supposedly could be used to apply spin. In photo below, Ron shows a tip contacting the Rempe ball at a Rempe 3 marking that corresponds to a distance of 0.5R. The tip covers a zone from Rempe markers 2 to 5. Since tip contact would be on the left half of the tip, actual contact would be at about 3.

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Fracasso-Verner goes undefeated to win B & L Billiards’ Quad Bracket tournament in MD

Lucas Kilgore, 17, battles him to double hill in the final It just doesn’t get much better than this in the field of sports. A final, title-winning, single-game matchup between an iconic pair of competitors. Think the battle between the Soviet and America hockey teams in the 1980 Olympics, Federer vs. Nadal in 1990’s Miami Open (tennis), or maybe, putting us in the proper arena, Earl Strickland versus an (at the time) up-and-coming Efren Reyes in 1995. We’re talking about an odds-on favorite to win a single match and/or game, facing an ‘underdog.’ Two of those three examples were won […]

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EUROPEAN OPEN 2026, Sarajevo, Bosnia and Herzegovina, March 10-15

I haven’t read the whole thread so sorry if it’s been said, but some players have skipped the WNT event because it conflicts with the US Open series. It’s not just about money IMO. SVB, for example, had great loyalty to Mark Griffin and he plays these events to honour Mark I believe.
Good stuff here that brings up a really important matter.

As noted earlier in the thread, it is a sign of the times. Top players can pick and choose and need not play in every big-purse event to make a living. SVB's loyalty to Mark Griffin is understandable, as Mark greatly supported him early in his career. Still, loyalty is a funny commodity. For example, Matchroom has done a lot for Shane over the years, but he was among those that skipped the 2025 UK Open in favor of an Expo in Asia.

SVB might be thinking that even with reduced participation in WNT events, he will surely qualify for both the Reyes Cup and Mosconi Cup. Then again, Emily has come down very hard on players that skip WNT majors, so we shall see.

Bottom line here is that the most elite players wield more power than in the past, and event producers will have to do more than ever before to ensure their participation in the biggest events.

Pool's landscape has changed, and everybody must adjust.

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