garczar said:

did a lil dig and apparently this new ball is the first to use some new hi-tech automated process. adrian wang(owns the factory in china) is real proud of this new gizmo. He announced it about a mo. ago but they aren't on their site yet. Supposed to be around 100bux retail. If they're like their other balls that's a game changer for phenolic balls.

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Small caveat, the owner is Taiwanese, and his factory is in China. I've worked with both at my dayjob, and in my personal experience, the Taiwanese are very proud and very careful in their designs (more like the Japanese), while the Chinese are not. The Taiwanese actually design things, the Chinese just copy without realizing what or why it was made that way originally.

What that boils down to for us is its a good thing the owner is Taiwanese.

In my view Dynasphere will soon overtake Aramith and become the dominant force in global pool ball manufacture… if they haven’t done so already.

The folks in charge are very smart and super aggressive in a business sense.

Cornerman said:

One Rail, Two Rails, Three Rails and More: Kicks and Bank Shots Simplified and Explained

Desmond Allen

A “must have” for your library.

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A picked up a copy. I look forward to checking it out as time permits.
Thank you.

Island Drive said:

I've named that shot before a shovel shot.
I was always taught if the cb and obj ball go forward at the same speed it wasn't a good shot, if it is I wanna know that.

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Yeah, that's a clear sign of a double hit, when they go the same speed. But when they ARE frozen, it can look similar, but I don't think exactly. There is more separation between the CB and OB. This clip was so fast because he shot it super hard, it's difficult to tell for sure. My opinion though is (purely from the reaction like you see and the sound, which IS in sync in this particular video), is there was a tiny gap and it was a double hit.

I'm going to the pool hall tonight with the camera. I will try this shot with a 1mm gap between them, and frozen, and post it.

David in FL said:

Your best bet is probably Brewlands in Lakeland. Probably 30 minutes away.

There's also a decent little dive ish room in Plant City called Mikey's place.

Those are the only two I'm familiar with...

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Thank you.

I still dont understand how 2nd paragraph of 3.7 defines this shot as a legal shot.

This is 3.8 as there is no way that the cueball would move forward without extended contact.

Foul.

Two fouls. Push shot, which converted to double hit as cue ball advanced.

Imagine cueball was hit by a stunned ball without any rotation instead of cue. Cueball would not move a bit.

iusedtoberich said:

Yeah, weird that he is pointing to 3.8 push shot and not 3.7 double hit. Push shot is a deliberate slow stroke where the tip stays on the ball. It can happen with just the CB and the tip and no other balls nearby. Double hit is what happens when the CB is very close to the OB. The terms are sometimes used interchangeably in common use, but in the rule section they are separate types of fouls.

I know you know all this Just incase anyone else does not.

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I've named that shot before a shovel shot.
I was always taught if the cb and obj ball go forward at the same speed it wasn't a good shot, if it is I wanna know that.

j2pac said:

Any decent spots in Winter Haven?
Thank you in advance.

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Your best bet is probably Brewlands in Lakeland. Probably 30 minutes away.

There's also a decent little dive ish room in Plant City called Mikey's place.

Those are the only two I'm familiar with...

Wait, did Charlie Williams post that? Schmidt is NOT a 14.1 World Champion. CW is probably the only one who thinks he is. Maybe he had some gimmick like BIH every rack?

garczar said:

they may not have been frozen then.

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The way he shot thru the two balls, pushing whitey into the 9 ball was his shot and they probably were froze.
If that's legal I like it, roll the 9.

GideonF said:

Unfortunately it seems Karl Boyes is now quoting the push rule. My guess is that Marcel is as confused as some of our posters and is the one who fed him this.

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Yeah, weird that he is pointing to 3.8 push shot and not 3.7 double hit. Push shot is a deliberate slow stroke where the tip stays on the ball. It can happen with just the CB and the tip and no other balls nearby. Double hit is what happens when the CB is very close to the OB. The terms are sometimes used interchangeably in common use, but in the rule section they are separate types of fouls.

I know you know all this Just incase anyone else does not.

skor said:

The ref called it frozen, you can see in the video that he bumps his fists to call it

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I thought so too when I first watched it. But I can't be certain. He might have been pressing his stopwatch it looks like he had something in his hand.