I read through here and I am not sure what has or hasn’t been tried, but I wanted to share a couple of thoughts. First, as long as something has value, someone is trying to figure out how to get it for as little as possible or even free. One of the unique, but not exclusive things pool has as a hobby is more people play pool in a business sometimes with their own equipment and often with other people. Even though I wasn’t personally involved in pool for the last few decades, I understand the basics as it relates to a hobby or for some a deeper investment of money and even more valuable , time. Some people owned pool rooms and in many they had a person who did repairs and they sold cues/butts/shafts or allowed other people to sell items there in the pool rooms as well. This method of commerce wasn’t broken, but people pioneered selling from a computer screen and that became popular (convenience being a big part) and eventually online sales became mainstream. I know, get to the point. I only see two solutions. If you want to be a seller, at a minimum have a DBA (doing business as name) and be willing to publicly list at that business name, your name and a contact number. Most of you have your information all over the internet already anyway. Another idea, designate a couple of people (confirmed members) in each major city as brokers. Again they would have to be willing to provide some basic, but verifiable information and they can act as a go between buyer and seller. If you are the buyer and seller, give a small convenience fee (perhaps even extending there silver/gold status on AZBilliards) to the person assisting with the transaction. If you are a “broker” maintain an account with positive feedback through the website. I know I am a newby (some people are keen to remind me), but I am still part of the pool playing community. As with any hobby we can make it shit and contribute to people avoiding getting involved/invested or we can contribute to promoting a supportive, inclusive community that values a cool place to be involved and conduct transactions. This free advice can be used in about any discussion board ever made for almost any hobby that has buying/selling.

Edited: fixed some grammar/spelling

westcoast said:

I know it is a rule in American pool, but what is the rationale for push shots to be legal when balls are frozen?

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*When Frozen Only* The rationale is it's not actually a "push" or a "double hit". There is only one contact, and the contact is normal like hitting a regular shot. This has been proven with high speed camera footage.

Pensacola said:

Every time I turn around, it seams that AJ Manas either has some visa issues, or he wins his first two matches, losses his third match and is eliminated from a double elimination tournament.

Mabe he needs to get away from that "mentor" Pilipino comedian who's supposed to be helping him. Visa issues stopped him from going to U.S. in time for Open, now visa issues for European open...WTF is going on?

While at it can someone explain to me why they don't have a true double elimination tournament, instead of this BS where if you
WWL your eliminated, and if you WLW or LWW you advance of may advance?

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This two-stage format has been in use for over 30 years old in our sport. It has been the norm in WPA and Euro-tour events for decades. You need to qualify for the main tournament, and most of the good players do, but once you do, it's single elimination from that point on. The "true double elimination" events are pool's dinosaurs and, thankfully, there are fewer and fewer of them.

At Fargo 794, Manas is rated as the #88 player in the world. If he wants to go deeper at the majors, let him hit the practice table and become a better player.

Bob Jewett said:

That often gives the wrong answer -- in both directions.

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I’d like to hear more. But the post said that there wasn’t a noticeable difference in cueball movement on the frozen ball vs a small gap. I agree, but one is a foul and one not. I also agree that if you are saying the better way to call it is cueball movement. But, isn’t it also true that the sound with the small gap is often way different than the frozen balls? That is with just shooting through in both situations.

Show us the after photos Duc

Mensabum said:

You might want to steer clear of this. Did some further digging and this is obviously overseas if anywhere and sketchy on info. English does t seem to be their first language. No 'Stoddard' anywhere that I can find and certainly no patent awarded.
Who knows what this is.

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Thanks. Looks like a Frankenstein shaft to me, lol. Pretty far out.

hundreder said:

Thing is you can play this shot legal way and ilegal way with both ways doing

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Check Dr Dave’s site for videos. And the one above. Push shot and double hit are different. Dr Dave’s site linked a Mike page video too.

Mensabum said:

Those sound a lot like what Vince is making, except Vince uses a much higher K count carbon fiber than this Stoddard guy who uses 3K.
I don't see anything about a damper or proprietary ferrule, or any of the additional goodies Vince includes. And Jaden will as well once his are up and running. This guy says he has a patent. I've heard that from 2 other people. Somebody's not telling the truth. Guess I'll have to check the US patent office and find out for sure.
Thank you for posting this!!

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Curious, what does this 3k Count mean? The Mezz Ignite, for example, is probably the top of the line CF shaft on the market. I wonder what the CF count on that one is. I do not understand that at all. And, what does this Vince guy use, for example? What does the count mean, and why does it matter? Just curious. And, I wonder why the CF looks woven, like that. Thanks a lot. They do look super interesting though.

MattPoland said:

I like sharing this 22 second clip to illustrate why it’s not a push.

✂️ Frozen Shot Rules and Footage

21 seconds · Clipped by Matt Poland · Original video "FROZEN CUE BALL SHOTS … Everything You Need to Know" by DrDaveBilliards

youtube.com

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This is a great clip of why it’s not a double hit but it doesn’t show the difference between a legal shot into a frozen ball and an illegal push shot. Lots of people apparently (including Karl Boyes it seems) think it’s a push. Do you know of a clip showing the actual illegal push technique?

Cuemaster98 said:

Luckily, it looks like a clean break, so it's pretty easy to insert a dowel and add the new collar and joint... if anything, it would just be slightly shorter. The points are all perfect, so really nothing to do there...just need a new collar and ivory joint installed. This will be more of a playing cue, and I don't really care about the value or resale on this one.

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You and I have very different definitions of the phrase "clean break".

Good luck with whatever you wind up doing.

JPB2 said:

Listen.

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That often gives the wrong answer -- in both directions.