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I need breaking technique in 8-ball as I get older.

boogieman
preacherman said:
Hi all AZ billiards friends,
I'm in my 60's and not a big guy. My break has never been powerful, but even less so as I age.
Can you all give me suggestions on being successful on a break in 8-ball (as a senior).
I am back to playing in local 8-ball league, but I find that while my breaks spread the balls well, rarely does anything go in on the break, which has left a nice spread for my opponent to run balls. I need to start getting atleast 1 ball in on break! And advice is appreciated.

Jim (Preacherman)
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The absolutely most important thing is to have a tight rack. It can be a terrible chore to do correctly depending on conditions. Most people cannot rack as well as they think they are. In league conditions or with opponent rack it can be almost impossible. Most of the time you will see a gap between the balls in the second row. This is not conducive to good breaking.
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For those of You that don't know... The BreakRAK is getting some attention...

boogieman
skor said:
It was a good tool when 9ball was racked with the 1 on the spot and players where going for a square hit on the 1ball to get the wing ball in the corner and the 1 ball towards the side pocket AND controlling the CB to stay at the center of the table, using a stop hit that if done correctly, it will cause the CB to jump up off the 1ball and land in the center of the table.

This tool doesn't help at all with modern 9ball with the 9 on the spot, breaking from the box as players are focusing on making the 1ball in the side and sending the CB to the long rail and back to the center of the table (sometimes resulting in hitting and pocketing the 9ball).
You have to see that the 1ball goes into the pocket!! and adjust accordingly if you miss the pocket above or bellow it.
It will also not help if you are practicing such a break while also going to make sure that the 3 point rule is in affect.

Modern 9ball break is less about the CB control and more about the object balls control, so this tool will not be good for it. I don't care how much the inventor wants you to believe otherwise. trying to smear my (nick)name won't help with that either...

Pros that got it and used it, did it before the changes of the break in 9ball.

This tool will still provide good aid for breaks practicing if you are still going for a square hit and controlling the CB to stay at the center.
Like if the box is not in use and players can break from the side, they'll still go for the old style square break even if the 9ball is on the spot, you'll still get a ball at the top corner and the 1ball will go off the long rail towards the bottom corner.

It will also work to practice 8ball breaks unless you're looking for a second ball break, then again, it's useless.
10 ball breaks usually are hitting the top ball square so it'll work for practicing that, but who plays 10ball?

If I was an active trainer, I might have gotten such a device to work on the break with beginner students.
As a player in training, I would not waste money on such a device as it will become useless to the player progression very fast, as advanced players need to see where the object balls are going.
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I'm kind of in the same boat. For certain situations I think it would be the bees knees. Yes it saves you from re-racking.

But the break is SO much more than squatting the CB. This isn't knocking the device. Again, good for practicing certain aspects.

I'm not a great player but I'm flabbergasted that players don't know where balls trend on the break. Even really good players. You can manipulate the general area where the balls end up by changing CB location, speed and spin. It's all about observing. Even Dr. Dave has the diagram where balls trend. If you've ever replaced cloth you can see the track lines on the slate.

To me, this aspect is way more important than squatting the CB. Again, I'm not great at this game, but even for me it's dead easy to squat a CB. I'm a nobody but I can look at the numbers or colors of a rack and know where and how to break from for good results. It's not some analysis either, it's mainly from feel and paying close attention to the break for a month or two. It's a skill that is within anyone's grasp if they pay any attention and train pattern recognition. I'm doing this stuff by "feel" without any real conscious thought.

I may be dead wrong, maybe I have a touch of the 'tism or something but anyone near or over 500FR should know this stuff. The break isn't random. There should be about half a dozen to a dozen breaks you can use to get favorable results on the first 4 or so balls. The rest is gravy. Yes, there are more variations in where balls can go than a dozen but you should only need the first 3 or so balls to be able to get shape to run out.

I should write a booklet on it but I'm much too lazy.
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