Why don't more bars lease Diamond pool tables?

Not to mention that people who play in bars for the most part couldn't give two $h17s as to which they're playing on.
Let's face it. People that play on bar boxes in bars enjoy the competition but enjoy the comradery even more especially in a league environment, teams like APA or TAP.
Nothing wrong with that. To each their own.
There is nothing like a poolroom with well maintained 9 footers I'm my opinion. That's just me.

Two completely different scenarios.
That being said, in my area at least, there are plenty of 9 foot killer players that play bar tournaments once or twice even on weekends because there are tons of tournaments being run in bars.
They just relish playing pool.

Cue ID

I appreciate the pic. Would you show the pilots and the pin?

Is that a higher end Mizerack cue from the 80’s?

I’m sure we have both seen enough cues to understand subtle differences between a custom cue and a production cue.
Yes, it is a Mizerak Pro SM-7

This is an earlier one with sharp points. Later ones had rounded CNC points.

The pin and pilot are likely nothing like yours. I was merely showing an example of the ring material. I have a variety of others, different brands, import and US, but I don't know if I have pictures showing the grain in the rings so clearly.

I know that I have production cues with a tapered compression fir like you cue, but I haven't found pictures yet. I don't always have detailed pics. I am still in the midst of cataloging what I have.

I couldn't find clear pictures of pin and pilot of that exact cue, this is another one I own, an SM-3

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Why don't more bars lease Diamond pool tables?

When I lived in Evansville IN, it seemed like every single bar in the city had Diamond tables.

Here in Austin TX, it is all Valley tables, with Nasty old Mud Cue balls, in my experience.

Maybe it is just me, but I just can't enjoy playing pool at all, using a Mud cue ball, and I understand that they are varying degrees of bad, with them.

I randomly found this bar in Downtown Austin, which was a really nice and very classic looking bar, and they had a nice line of 5 Valley coin op tables. All with nasty old Mud cue balls on them.

I tried playing / hitting some balls on one of them, and it was just so horrible. I could not even finish, it was so un enjoyable.

I believe that Diamond offers a free lease on coin op tables, for half of the profit, from what I read somewhere a long time ago. Not sure if that is still the case though.

Don't you think that a lot more players would visit a bar if it offered Diamonds, or at least Valley's with a decent set of balls?

And, why is it that most Valley coin op tables usually have these nasty old mud balls, that look like they are maybe 30 years old?

The funny thing is, that the pool scene in Austin is very lively. People just love to play pool here. There are always people on all of the pool tables.

Back in Evansville, where it seemed like every bar had a Diamond, they were always empty, and I rarely ever seen anyone playing on them, other then at the real pool halls.

So, maybe the type of table would not even matter, in these bars. The banger's will enjoy playing on them no matter what.
Seems like a lot of exaggerating going on here. Valley cue balls may not play like a red circle or a measle ball but they dont make the game unplayable. If you find it to be that bad why are you going to a bar to play pool? There must be a pool hall around that has better tables or find a bar with a Diamond.

Thank you to Mensabum and Cue Alchemist

Both of the forum members you mentioned are gracious, thoughtful individuals and their generosity
is indicative of their character, willingness to help others and desire to reinvigorate and promote pool.

I hope you remain in close communication with both fellows and just like in the Peter Jackson movies,
becoming a forum member is akin to a joining a Fellowship but in this case, we carry cues not swords.

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